When Obama came for the the executives making $250,000
I remained silent;
I did not earn $250,000.
When Obama came for the babies,
I remained silent;
I was not a baby…anymore.
When Obama came for conservative talk show hosts,
I did not speak out;
I didn’t have a talk show.
When Obama came for the plumber,
I remained silent;
I was not a public figure.
When Obama came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.
October 29, 2008 at 4:35 pm
Deusdonat,
You say abortion is not a genocide because it’s not a single group being targetted for extermination. However, this is not true. All unwanted unborn children are targetted.
I don’t think that unwanted, unborn children is a group no more arbitrary than the Tutsis in Rwanda or many other groups that have been victimized by genocide over the last hundred years.
(Though you can also look to the past and present history of Planned Parenthood to make a compelling case that abortion is racial genocide as well.)
October 29, 2008 at 5:13 pm
http://www.blackgenocide.org or guttmacher.org
Certainly powerlust when a blackleader does not defend his own race.Also:obamamustsee.com AND
Cardinal Egan comparing Nazi and abortion on http://www.catholicnewsagency.com
October 29, 2008 at 5:15 pm
Nope, not likely we’ll see the rise of a regime similar to Hitler’s Third Reich. Not likely most hurricanes have the same consequences as Katrina either.
Some things about Obama just send up all kinds of flares in my brain. Examples include the rock-star type of adulation heeped upon him, the numerous unsavory associations that are blithely dismissed by his supporters, and the “ends justifies the means” mentality of some (not all) of his worshippers.
I’m not a dyed-in-the-wool conservative, there have been some Republicans that made me equally uneasy, Tancredo being a good example. Anyone familiar with Stephen King’s, “The Dead Zone” recognizes the reference when I say that man reminded me of Greg Stillson. I’m skeptical of an politician.
So keep the Kool-Aid folks, I’ll figure things out for myself.
When I see whats happening regarding the man I feel will undoubtedly win this election it makes me uneasy. I definetly believe the comparison to Hitler, intentional or not, is justified.
Correct me if I’m wrong, Hitler was democratically elected to power by the people of Germany. He also enjoyed popularity similar to a rock star, although many of his opponents dismissed him as an inexperienced, intellectually shallow buffoon. He was very much a true believer in his methods being for the betterment of his country. He was an “ends justifies the means” type of guy. He and his supporters brooked no dissent. The list of items similar to Obama goes on and on.
We live in interesting times.
October 29, 2008 at 5:28 pm
Actually, Matthew, to give credit where credit is due, the info I posted came from some friends. Before this morning I only knew about the birth certificate and the thesis.
Scary, isn’t it, how little we’re allowed to know about a candidate?
October 29, 2008 at 6:47 pm
When Obama came for America,I didn’t speak out, and now where is America,the Land of the Free if he and all his evil friends succeed?He is a socialist.Marxism is his love.He doesn’t like the U.S.A. or our Constitution.
haus frau’s list needs to be broadcasted from coast to coast and every Black man or woman needs to see Black Genocide.org
October 29, 2008 at 7:08 pm
please read: A dangerous time to be a black baby:www.thepublicdiscourse.com
You would think the obama democrats would care since they say they CARE about you!
October 29, 2008 at 8:38 pm
Some things in the way of reply:
“Sometimes I’m worried that many of us who are pro-life and acknowledge that abortion is murder are still unwilling to grant the fetus the same rights and dignity as a grown person.”
This is something I hope to keep in the back of my mind, reminding myself that human life is in fact incommensurable – the Catholic Church rightly affirms that human life is of infinite value.
Therefore it is not right to say that the tragedy of abortion is any less tragic than the tragedy of the Jewish Holocaust. And let me be absolutely clear in saying that I’m not by any means attempting to compare the two.
Instead, I would like to deal with intention. Now, I am sure that people will respond with an arsenal of counter-example-making quotes to the assertion I am about to make, but I have already declared my naivete when it comes to human intention, so here goes.
It seems clear to me that even the most fervent of “pro-choice” advocates don’t view abortion as a good thing in itself. As a result of their perverted misconception of human life, they view abortion as morally acceptable to achieve an end that they have erroneously placed before that of human life (namely, “personal freedom”).
I’m also not an expert on Nazi policies towards the Jews, but as far as I’m aware, they did not ever try to claim that Jews weren’t humans. They were aware that they were destroying humans – this evidences a heinous lack of respect for human life, not an ignorance of what that is.
No one can absolve the willfully ignorant, especially the obstinately ignorant. But they are still ignorant. Their hate (or fear) of truth is condemnable in its own right, but it is better than outright spitting in the face of truth – to say, “To Hell with humanity.”
One last reply: “When Obama came for America,I didn’t speak out, and now where is America,the Land of the Free if he and all his evil friends succeed?He is a socialist.Marxism is his love.He doesn’t like the U.S.A. or our Constitution.”
I think it would really take a lot to convince me that Obama is evil, or that he hates the United States.
To what do all things aim? The Good – any first year philosophy student could tell you that. There is, on one hand, a Good that is true, and a good that is apparent. Obama and his “evil” friends are not aiming to destroy America. They are merely aiming for a “good” that for them is good, but which the informed and well-formed Catholic knows is not in line with the real Good.
It’s tempting to cast everyone on the side of either Good and Evil, but real life is much more complex.
– Alex in Pittsburgh
October 29, 2008 at 9:38 pm
Unborn children are targeted SPECIFICALLY because they are unborn. Just as Jews were targeted specifically because they were Jewish. It’s individuals being killed because they have a specific trait that is beyond their control.
I’m not sure how these two could be anymore the same.
October 29, 2008 at 9:44 pm
Alex,
Also from philosophy we know that persons ONLY choose good. It is the act of choosing a lesser good that is evil. When a man chooses between killing another person and not killing another person, he is choosing the lesser good of satisfying his own desire (for power, control, whatever…).
So, what Obama and his ilk perceive as a good is a vastly lesser good, and, as such, evil. I’m sure Hitler viewed killing the Jews as a good, as well. He was wrong.
October 29, 2008 at 10:08 pm
Alex in P’burg,
I agree with you wholeheartedly. Unfortunately, to some on this board Obama has become evil incarnate. And to convince them any otherwise (i.e. that he is actual a human being) is to be branded at best an “Obama supporter”.
Let’s all forget the catechism, church dogma and the bible for the remainder of the election and just settle on the fact that Obama is simply pure evil, Satan in the flesh, the anti-Christ, worse than Hitler, totally unworthy of salvation and absolutely no recourse benefits, courtesies or civilities we would extend to a human being type person.
Amazing how quickly Catholicism is stripped away during election time. Ironically, it would appear this election has finally done to some American Catholics what Nazis failed to do to the German Catholics. Now THERE’S a holocaust analogy for ya.
October 29, 2008 at 10:56 pm
Deusdonat,
It’s best if you don’t question our faith on OUR blog. Please don’t do it in the future. Thank you.
October 29, 2008 at 11:38 pm
Matthew, I questioned No ones faith. Your faith is between you and God. As is mine. My conscience is clean here.
October 30, 2008 at 12:06 am
I’m not sure how these two could be anymore the same.
Well, they could be more the same if the pro-aborts targeted all unborn children indiscriminately, as the Jews were targeted indiscriminately by the Nazi regime.