Some good news. Even though we’re likely throwing off many of the precepts which have defined America for over 230 years, we’re not throwing off ALL the precepts that have defined every civilization for all of recorded history.
So essentially, for me, it’s like I got shanked last night in the prison yard but they didn’t twist it or break off the handle. Hey, you’ve got to take the good news where you can get it.
This is my way of saying that it looks like all three of the marriage amendments passed.
With 84 percent of the vote in, Florida is voting for marriage 62 percent to 38 percent.
Arizona’s is up 56 to 43 percent.
And in California, it looks like it’s passing by one percent.
It’s a little sad that we count as a victory that people admit something as fundamental and obvious as marriage being between a man and a woman but we’ll take what we can get.
I’m a little tired and sad so I’m not as pleased with this as I should be. It is good news.
November 5, 2008 at 12:36 pm
I read that Florida denied gay marriage–a hopeful sign. However how many times does this have to be passed by each state, without them bringing it up for another vote?
November 5, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Ya’ll noticed, of course, that Obama mentioned “gays” in his victory speech last night. I can’t believe people elected this loony bastard as if he was some gentle Clintonite moderate or something. I’m sure they’ve got something in the works re: gay marriage like they do FOCA.
November 5, 2008 at 1:28 pm
As a Floridian, I’m sorry that my State went Blue, but I’m soo glad that Amendment 2 passed!
November 5, 2008 at 3:04 pm
What I don’t get is how did these pass, and McCain lose? Did people either vote Obama, but not agree with him on gay marriage…or did they just not vote McCain (blank, 3rd party, write-in)?
If these measures win, it should have been a no brainer for McCain to win…right?
November 5, 2008 at 6:35 pm
Lori, from what I heard in my state is that black churchgoers are very conservative as regards homosexual marriage, and the large % of blacks that turned out to vote for Obama, ironically helped the initiative to pass. Go figure!
November 5, 2008 at 8:02 pm
But Meg, can they not put 2 and 2 together? Voting for Obama is a vote for social liberalism…did race really trump their conservatism that much? If so, we are not as far along in this country as we are patting ourselves on the back for…
November 5, 2008 at 10:52 pm
Blacks voted for Obama because of the pride they felt in him. They did not consider that his positions on social issues were anathema to what they might believe. But when the issue of gay marriage was put front and center, they knew they couldn’t support it. It is not a consistent moral position, to be sure, and if Obama tries to pass gay-friendly legislation, they will probably be puzzled by his move. But such is the education of the American electorate. Still, it looks like we got a victory for Prop 8 here in California, so I guess we must ge grateful for small favors.
November 7, 2008 at 12:15 am
Rather like the American Catholics who voted for John F. Kennedy, even though he publicly stated that he would deny the Pope.
The Catholic Church in America would have been far better off if Al Smith had been elected the first Catholic president – he was proud of his Faith.
November 7, 2008 at 12:15 am
Rather like the American Catholics who voted for John F. Kennedy, even though he publicly stated that he would deny the Pope.
The Catholic Church in America would have been far better off if Al Smith had been elected the first Catholic president – he was proud of his Faith.