The Washington Times reports on the mad props one abortionist is giving another. But he may have gotten a wee bit carried away if you ask me:
Nebraska abortion doctor LeRoy Carhart called on the federal government Monday to treat all activities by “anti-choice domestic terrorists” as hate crimes after last week’s fatal shooting of Dr. George Tiller.
“This is the equivalent of Martin Luther King being assassinated,” he said of the killing of one of the nation’s best known late-term abortion doctors. “This is the equivalent of Pearl Harbor, the sinking of the Lusitania and any other major historic event where we’ve tolerated the intolerable for too long.”
Yeah, I see the similarities. Whereas Martin Luther King peaceably sought rights for the rights of the oppressed, Dr. Tiller violently ripped babies limb from limb. I totally see the similarities. It’s actually kind of spooky how similar they are, right?
Carhart then makes another equivalence between the burning crosses of the KKK and the crosses pro-lifers place to commemorate the murder of millions of babies.
“I think there is absolutely no difference in putting a cross in front of a person’s home because of what race they belong to than there is putting a cross in front of our homes because we do abortions,” he said.
Pro-life protesters had put crosses in front of Dr. Tiller’s Wichita, Kan. clinic, he said, adding that he was one of three physicians who rotated in every three weeks to assist in providing late-term abortions.
I totally see that one too. Burning crosses on people’s lawns to tell them that you’re going to kill them is almost exactly like commemorating in a public way the death of thousands of babies.
This is so predictable. To the left, everyone on the right is a Nazi and everyone of the left is Martin Luther King no matter what actions they take. As outraged as I can get over the stupid words that come out of Carhart’s mouth, it pales in comparison to the disgust I feel over what he actually does for a living.
Can you imagine doing what he does for a living for money?
But I think Dr. Alveda King’s response, Pastoral Associate of Priests for Life and niece of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., at Priests for Life is much better:
“For LeRoy Carhart to mention the murder of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., who worked through peaceful and non-violent means, in the same breath with that of George Tiller, whose work ended peace and brought violence to babies in the womb, is offensive beyond belief,” said Dr. King. “The analogy is just wrong.”
June 10, 2009 at 4:44 am
Is it bad that I see a connection between Tiller and MLK?
They were both horribly inconsistant in their beliefs. MLK said that he wanted equal rights for everyone and that nobody should be treated like an object, but isn't that what he was doing when he was cheating on his wife? Treating all women like objects. Similarly, Tiller stood up for the right of the woman, and for the life-style or for whatever reason that woman wanted the abortion, while killing innocent lives who will never even get to exercise their right to life. Not that I'm saying either murder was justified (because neither murder was or murder for that fact never is), but I don't think the comparison is horribly wrong.
Now, if he had compared Tiller to a different activist, maybe Rosa Parks, then I'd be pretty upset.
Also, I was wondering why the KKK is always seen as anti-black and never anti-catholic, which they were. The KKK did a lot of bad anti-catholic things. At one point, God even smited their leader outside of a Catholic school (St. Katherine Drexel). Making the comparison between the KKK and the pro-life movement is ridiculous because of the hate behind the KKK. The pro-life movement is attempting to stand up for the lives of the unborn, motivated by love and compassion. Granted you have people who are not motivated for those reasons, but the majority is. Agree with me, disagree with me, that is fine, but these are my thoughts.
June 10, 2009 at 4:48 am
I saw this too – it's the pro-aborts 'Jump the Shark' moment.
I have a post coming out on this tomorrow afternoon.
June 10, 2009 at 9:05 am
I'm personally more offended at him saying that the killing of Tiller was equivalent to Pearl Harbor or the sinking of the Lusitania.
June 10, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Catholicgirl40: What a disgusting thing to say. I am not defending Rev. King's personal failings, but a personal sin, a betrayal of his wife, is not remotely the same thing as murdering thousands of people and no, it's not the same as "treating all women like objects."
Everyone is prone to some vice that other people have no trouble conquering. That's why compassion is so important — plenty of people have no trouble controlling whatever vice you are prone to, and you'd better hope that others are as compassionate to you when you need it.
If you really are Catholic then you should know that EVERYONE needs God's mercy and no matter how many good things a person accomplishes, he or she can always fall. Our culture teaches us to look at our heroes until we find a fault or sin, and then hate them no matter what good things they have accomplished. It is not right to discount the enormous contributions that MLK made to our coutry.
June 10, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Gail F-
I'm sorry if I offened you. I was not trying to equate MLK and Tiller. Maybe this will better explain my thoughts:
MLK wanted equal rights, and he wanted to be treated like a person because people weren't giving him the respect he deserved. When you sleep around, cheat on your wife, etc, you are treating women as objects for your personal pleasure. Now, I didn't say it was the same thing. I said they were both inconsistant in their beliefs. Also, I can see in our country's future a Tiller holiday, where people get the day off of school to celebrate how their mother could have killed them if she had wanted to. The way women are objectified has also caused this country to be as pro-choice as it really is (not that MLK is responsible, but he didn't stand up against it as he supposedly did for "all humans and for equality").
I just feel like MLK should have stood for all human rights, not just for black males, just as I think Tiller should have stood for all rights, not just the mother's right to choose (which really isn't a right because it's murder).
I don't think my comments were as "disgusting" as you believe them to be. I wasn't saying that MLK is the most horrible person or that he murdered countless babies.
I simply said
1. that I saw a connection (and I admited that it wasn't wonderful or equal. I said "Is it bad that I see a connection?") that was made in the article… not that I agreed with how he was using it.
2. that the connection I saw was a HUGE inconsistancy in beliefs.
Do I think that one day that Tiller and MLK will have more in common because of the way the country reacts? Yes, I do. As I stated earlier, I can see Tiller sharing a holiday with Roe v Wade for children to "celebrate."
I'm sorry if in some way you felt offended. That was not my intention. I was just saying that I did see a connection. AND MLK definitly objectified women.
Yes, we all need grace, but I know that if I say something about my faith that is inconsistant with my actions, I need to at least recognize it and address it… or what good would my first statement be when all everyone else could see is the inconsistancy?
June 10, 2009 at 3:10 pm
For some reason the article seems to have excised what was the most ridiculous thing Carhart said:
“God gave that fetus a ‘guardian ad litem’ when he chose the mother that fetus is born with,” he said. “That mother, I feel, has been charged by God to make the right choices for that child during its unborn and early born years.”
Yes, that's right, a mother has the God-given right to kill her child. In fact, God approves. Lovely.
June 10, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Evidently there were two different articles. Here's the longer version from the Times:
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jun/09/tiller-likened-to-mlk/
June 10, 2009 at 4:04 pm
The ELCA, the "church" to which Tiller belonged, has on their website a statement about abortion which says that a baby does not have an absolute right to be born.
Is that any less ridiculous than Carhart's statement?
I would expect such a statement from the likes of Carhart. A "christian" church-not so much.
June 10, 2009 at 8:23 pm
MLK was a heretic who had a string of mistresses on the side and held dubious morals. Maybe that's what the similarities are?
June 10, 2009 at 8:38 pm
To comment further on Carhart's remark: If it's okay for the mother to decide to kill the baby in the womb, why doesn't she have the right to do it after the baby exits the womb? She's still the care-giver. I am tired of these idiots trying to justify murder.
June 10, 2009 at 9:06 pm
Susan P not that I doubted you, but I wanted to confirm what you said so I visited the website. And you are of course correct. But why should any of us be surprised (or even care) about what the heretic says or thinks? They are outside the One True church. They may have some beliefs which correspond to ours, but on the rest they are way off, and as they say a half-truth is still a lie.
As Catholics, we really need to worry about what our own coreligionists believe and how they represent our church. If the statistics of 53% voting for Obama are true (and at this point I'm thinking the media may have been responsible for these stats) then we have a lot of work to do in our own house.
June 10, 2009 at 10:11 pm
Maureen, I am not sure that isn't what Carhart meant.
Anon., agreed.
June 11, 2009 at 12:34 am
What the heck is an "abortion doctor"? A doctor is someone who does all he can to save lives, not kill innocent babies in their mother's wombs.
June 12, 2009 at 12:03 am
Maureen, unfortunately, that is exactly what the right-to-die crowd is pushing these days, especially with disabled children. "Ethicists" like Dr. Singer push the idea that until a child reaches toddler age, he isn't able to care for himself and therefore a parent should be able to dispose of him.