President Obama and his pro-abortion acolytes often say things like “I believe that most women don’t make that (abortion) decision lightly.”
Can we just be done with that one? Really.
A recent study discussed at LifeSite by the pro-abortion Guttmacher Institute shows that over 1 billion abortions have occurred worldwide all while liberals absurdly insist that nobody is actually pro-abortion and that all women take this procedure very seriously. I’m thinking that after 1 Billion we can say abortion is considered with similar weight as the decision on whether or not to get a Big Mac. (Except liberals are actually against Big Macs.)
Look, when something reaches 1 Billion customers, it usually comes in a drive-thru.
I know we’re all supposed to pretend that women who carelessly jump from bed to bed to the back seat of a Pontiac all of a sudden become thoughtful and pensive moralists when it comes to abortion. But let’s just say it. If women take the decision to have sex with someone they don’t love lightly they’re likely going to take the abortion decision lightly too. The one thing kind of leads to the other, you know? I looked it up. (Don’t worry. There were no pictures)
The funny thing is that pro-aborts get mad when you call them pro-aborts. They demand to be called pro-choice. They say nobody’s pro-abortion. Really? Even the quite profitable abortion industry? That’s like saying McDonald’s is actually against people eating fatty foods, they just firmly believe in giving people the choice to eat fatty foods.
Could you imagine a Mcdonald’s spokesperson saying, “While we agree that eating a Big Mac or one of our tasty McRibs is always regrettable decision we must insist that Big Macs should be safe, legal and rare.”
That would be rather absurd, wouldn’t it? Well, it’s just as absurd when the pro-aborts say it too.
October 19, 2009 at 8:19 pm
Craig,
There are many who do not agree with you and I am one of them. Your assertion that there is no culture of death does not make it truth. Perhaps your perception of reality is exactly that – yours. And, yes, unfortunately, I think there are people who do abortions for totally wrong and horrific reasons. So, I guess we don't and won't agree, which is fine by me.
October 19, 2009 at 8:22 pm
Actually, I think that everyone who performs abortions has wrong and horrific reasons. My mother was counseled to abort me for no good reason by her ob/gyn many years ago, and I have a child who has a birth defect. No really good reason on either count to end a life.
October 19, 2009 at 8:35 pm
No good reason? What if a woman is a victim of incestuous rape? And the child brought into the world is supposed to just live with that as well?
October 19, 2009 at 8:47 pm
So troll anon (ie, PICK A NAME),
I child conceived of rape/incest is inherently less worthy? Or is it that such a child might feel embarrassed, or what?
If anything, a child conceived in such a situation should realized how loved he or she really is, because everything in this culture is telling the mother to "get rid of the THING" and yet the mother chose life.
And by the way, I would love to hear from a single woman who says that an abortion reverses rape or incest. Because it's the act that is responsible for the child, not the child for the act. Eliminating the child does nothing to eliminate the situation that occurred.
October 19, 2009 at 9:26 pm
Two clear things
1) anon isn't a woman, but does read NOW talking points
2) the underlying question is whether or not life is inherently valuable because it IS life worth saving irregardless of the circumstances of the conception of the child.
The child doesn't get to pick the circumstances – the adults aren't facing the consequences. Because adults have a voice they get to make a choice. Convenience for me or life for another?
Pretending this 'choice' has no consequence for anyone other than the woman involved denies all evidence of ancient AND modern history (Greece & Rome practiced infanticide, India is now beginning to reap the consequences)
October 19, 2009 at 9:34 pm
I forgot to post some data – this line of commentary doesn't even get into what happens when we transfer the technology overseas….talk about acting as if we hate our own gender while calling it a "right" to something…
http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20091014/cm_csm/ywheelerweb
http://www.asian-nation.org/headlines/2007/01/chinas-growing-gender-imbalance/
I’m all for educating women – but I’m not so sure I was ever told the bit about enriching this generation of women at the expense of the existence of the next….
October 19, 2009 at 9:39 pm
Okay, your views definitely have some merit Lynn C and Michael. I believe we can all agree; however, that not every woman contemplating abortion is one who is a bed/Pontiac hopper. What about the earlier question regarding no abortion clinics does not necessarily equal no abortions. Prompting some women to seek them out in unsafe situations, isn't the mother's life worth something too?
October 19, 2009 at 9:41 pm
P.S. to Lynn C, why do you think it is so "clear" that Anon is not a woman?
October 19, 2009 at 9:56 pm
Lynn C, I just checked out your links. The point of those stories is in both cases a culture that prefers males to females. If you read them you would have noticed that not only are they aborting the female fetuses, they are also killing the female infants. I don't know any sane person who would not find this horrible. I must point out; however, that in these cases abortion is (sometimes) the tool to carry out a dysfunction within the cultures (not valuing the female). This is not about educating women, or making health care available, it is about societies who do not treat both sexes equal. Please stay on topic.
October 19, 2009 at 11:21 pm
Pro-choice is pro-abortion.
The black and white: if one doesn't believe in abortion, believes it should not be available, then one is anti-abortion, anti-choice. If one believes in abortion, believes it should be available, then one is pro-abortion, pro-choice.
There are variables for some, such as pro-choice with conditions such as gestation limits, while for others, it's simply one way, no way. But what isn't a variable, is that a proponent of choice is a proponent of abortion.
I believe as long as father's are denied rights to their unborn children, we have a long way to go with equality.
October 20, 2009 at 12:40 am
"women who carelessly jump from bed to bed to the back seat of a Pontiac"
Yes, there are women (and men) who are quite fond of this sort of behavior … but I would find it highly unlikely that anyone was ever converted from pro-choice to pro-life by being called promiscuous, or other much less P.C. terms. (I realize that changing minds is probably not the point of this post, or of your blog, as most who follow it are probably already pro-life.)
I think the main questions are,
1) What is the unborn? (This is of course a major point of pro-life organization who to outreach with the giant photographs and such.)
–and,
2) How on earth is it considered a major feminist achievement that pregnancy is thought of as a disease more than ever? Also, What does it say about our culture that children are both considered a sickness to be rid of (contraceptives, sterilization, abortion) and a commodity that anyone should have a right to obtain (IVF, artificial insemination, egg donation, surrogacy)?
Just my thoughts.
October 20, 2009 at 3:40 am
I, for one, am very grateful that Mr. Archbold wrote this post. I will refer all of my friends who waffle in support for abortion rights to this so that they can see what a typical Catholic male thinks of women — we're all filthy whores who deserve to suffer. Thanks for the honesty; you will do a lot for our side in this debate.
October 20, 2009 at 3:47 am
No no Kitty, not all of you.
October 20, 2009 at 11:40 am
the sufferings in this world is nothing compared to the eternal damnation in hell.
you may not be a filthy whore, but if you kill your child then you are a filthy murderer.
October 20, 2009 at 11:55 am
Kitty: Many have been hurt by abortion. Listen to the women themselves. Here's the link:
http://divine-ripples.blogspot.com/2009/03/women-who-had-abortions-expose-its-evil.html
That's from my blog, so I know the pressures that made women do the unthinkable, often against their wills. So, I know that you are not all whores.
October 20, 2009 at 12:07 pm
I love you analogy Matthew — you point out the absurdity of their arguments very succinctly.
McAbortion – over 1 billion served – indeed!
October 20, 2009 at 7:18 pm
" … as long as father's are denied rights to their unborn children, we have a long way to go with equality." This is what Leah said. Who says that the father's rights are being denied? I would venture that often the fathers are in denial, ill-equipped to be a father, in prison, on drugs, or perhaps no longer on this earth. If the father is around and has an interest, that's great — I believe that is the minority. Is it not the father who sometimes suggests an abortion?
October 21, 2009 at 7:20 am
the problem here is that abortion is the symptom to an underlying issue…the issue is we don't value ourselves.
my priest told a story about a king who went all over the country looking for a wife. he finally decided on a very plain, seemingly uneducated farm girl. he just adored her and gave a large dowry for her (7 cows!). and all his subjects couldn't believe the king had chosen her. well, the next time she was seen no one recognized her- she was beautiful and educated and graceful. they thought it was someone else, but when they discovered it was the farm girl they asked what prompted her change. she said, "i didn't know how much i was worth until the king chose me."
most people don't know what theyre worth and actually think theyre worthless. so when youre worthless, the baby inside you is worthless too. so why not get rid of it since its only going to be a worthless inconvenience anyway? we are worth so much, so so much, and if we could help ppl see and understand theyre value, abortion wouldnt be as big a problem.
October 21, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Right on, Frusciante!
You really made my morning with this. Thanks for sharing!
October 22, 2009 at 6:51 pm
Top Marks!