OK. We’ve all had it happen. We’re talking with a woman who all of a sudden does what we fear most and reaches into the depth of her pocketbook and whips out the pictures of her pride and joy. And she’s gonna’ tell you all about little Mr. Wonderful. You just know the next few minutes of your life will be spent oohing and aahing and forcing the edges of your mouth to reach your ears.
Well, you could do that which is what pretty much every human on the face of the earth does OR you could completely freak out and contact some high price attorney to pen some litigious threats or a cease and desist order to force the proud Mom to shut the Mom up. I know what you’re thinking. You’re thinking you’d never be so sick and demented as that. Well that’s why you’re not the President of the Center for Reproductive Rights.
Seriously, the President of CRR is losing it because Tim Tebow’s mom wants to tell the world she chose life and her son turned out to be…awesome squared.
That’s all. She’s not pushing a law. She’s not forcing anyone to do anything. She just wants to tell the world that she chose life and her son turned out to be a Heisman/National Championship factory with 4.40 speed.
The CRR tried to first say the ad, which they haven’t even seen yet, is too controversial. Yeah, a mom saying that you should love your unborn baby even though your kid probably won’t break every record in NCAA football history because her kid already did that but your kid might be pretty cool anyway is soooooo controversial.
But that didn’t work. So now the CRR folks have taken to calling Tim Tebow’s mom a lyin’ you know what. I’m serious.
In possibly the lowest move by pro-choicers (at least in the last few hours), Nancy Northup, President Center for Reproductive Rights, is attempting to silence Florida QB Tim Tebow by accusing his mother of lying about the circumstances surrounding his birth.
In a letter to CBS, which is airing the Superbowl, Northup wrote:
We are writing to request that CBS reconsider its decision to air an advertisement by the anti-choice group Focus on the Family, featuring Pam and Timothy Tebow during Super Bowl XLIV…
We believe it is essential that you determine whether the proposed Tebow advertisement meets CBS’s own standards with regard to accuracy and advocacy…
Past media coverage of the Tebows suggests that the ad may present a misleading picture of the reality of abortion in the Philippines. In 2007, the Gainsville Sun reported that Pam Tebow was living and working as a missionary in the Philippines in 1987 when she was pregnant with her son Tim. According to the Sun story, doctors encouraged Mrs. Tebow to terminate her pregnancy because she had suffered a medical condition that endangered her health and the pregnancy…
Because of these draconian and discriminatory laws and practices, women with life- threatening pregnancies have had no choice but to risk their lives, either by continuing their high-risk pregnancies or seeking unsafe abortions. In 2008 alone, at least 1000 women died, and 90,000 more suffered complications, as a result of the Philippines’ criminal abortion ban.
Given this context, it raises questions about whether physicians in the Philippines would have urged a married pregnant woman to illegally terminate her pregnancy in 1987…
There is still time before February 7 to reconsider your action and we urge you to do so.
Let’s get this straight. The Center for Reproductive Rights is calling Tim Tebow’s mother a liar because she’s saying that an abortion was recommended to her in a country where abortion is illegal.
Are these people so insane that they can’t believe a woman turned down an abortion? I know. I know. With all the fringe benefits of abortion including a lifetime of guilt, depression, higher risk of suicide, increased chance of infertility and cancer who could say no to an abortion, right?
And CRR’s logic falls apart in that aren’t they the same ones who say if you make abortion illegal, the same number of abortions would still occur but they’ll be performed illegally and dangerously? In one of their own documents they say, “The Court’s decision in Roe v. Wade all but ended the back-alley and self-induced abortions that once killed hundreds if not thousands of women each year.”
But wait?! Abortion was illegal in this country before that, right? So how did all those women die? So, I guess, abortions still take place even when it’s illegal, huh? I mean, did they not see Vera Drake?
I can’t wait for these folks to really start freaking out as the Super Bowl approaches. I wish they’d make them the halftime show.
HT HuffPo
January 29, 2010 at 6:42 pm
My My, What are the Pro abortionists afraid of. The truth that abortion kills one innocent baby is true. Is it only okay for the pro abortionist to get their message out?. How very sad this country has become to have organizations and others making money off of babies. Think about that. I admire CBS for playing this ad. Also think, all of the players in the super bowl had pro life mothers.
January 29, 2010 at 9:20 pm
Craig, you still don't have your facts straight. For one, Mrs. Tebow was not a Catholic missionary. My understanding is that she is evangelical. A country that is 80% Catholic, and that actually _exports_ priests to other countries, hardly needs foreign Catholic missionaries to work on its soil. Two, as an earlier post indicated, contrary to your claim, abortion is NOT criminalized in the Philippines for any reason whatsoever, including a threat to the life of the mother. Indeed, threat to the mother's life is one of the few cases when abortion there is legal, and presumibly that is the condition that prevailed when Mrs. Tebow received the recommendation to abort.
January 29, 2010 at 9:49 pm
Hi! Christy,
I believe you were referring to my post. I didn't know the whole story about Pam – sorry about the flying thing. But I was just saying that IF she was advised to have that abortion by her doctor for life threatening conditions, she could have it legally. That she did not takes a lot of courage and by choices that was the better choice!
I was just saying it to point out that CRR (I got into that CPR mistake too) was lying. And "pro-choice" is a lie too – otherwise they'd be celebrating Pam's choice. Pro-choice is simply pro-abortion.
Gabriel
January 29, 2010 at 10:04 pm
I am not privy to the medical facts of Pam's case. However, in Catholic moral theology there is the doctrine of double-effect where the killing of the fetus is tolerated. That is different from allowing abortion because the termination was only a side-effect and was not the main goal. If there was cancer in the uterus and it has to be removed to save the mother, then by double-effect, it is moral to proceed with the removal even if the fetus dies in the process. There was no active abortion for the health of the mother – a subtle distinction but essential because abortion is always immoral.
January 29, 2010 at 11:55 pm
Rick, I just wanted to clarify something in your post for other readers. When you say "it has to be removed," you mean the cancer, and not the unborn child. Removing the child would always be an abortion. Also, you say this, but "the killing of the fetus" is never tolerated because no "killing" should happen in the active sense. Death is sometimes tolerated as a side effect of the morally neutral medical treatment.
(Sometimes people refer to abortion as "removing the fetus," so I just wanted to clarify those points.)
January 30, 2010 at 12:46 am
anon@655: exactly. I'm glad you clarified
January 30, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Here's what blows my mind. The pro-aborts claim that if abortion were criminalized, millions of women would die from illegal back alley abortions.
But in a place where it is legal, they are incrediulous that somebody could even suggest abortion?
January 30, 2010 at 4:56 pm
You Christians are all liars and exaggerators. Pro-Choice means Pro-Choice. Women want there right. Tebow's Mommy is saying women should not have the choice. This is not a free speech issue. If there was free speech on TV you Christian liars would be up in arms about swearing and nudity on TV. You know you are lying by calling for free speech. It is exactly what you don't want.
If you are being propped up by 2.5 million dollars I want to know if a story is true. If this were George Clooney talking about the environment all you liars would being trying to do the same thing. The evidence is currently pointing out that she is a liar. Maybe you can help me out here. Is lying in the bible punishable by death. "A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall perish." Does that go for you exaggerators too or do you modern Christians get to pick and choose what you believe? I have always wondered what would happen when God see you picking and choosing based on only what your pastor thinks is important.
Plus your Jesus was not smart enough to even know what abortions or stem cells where. That's called science. You know the place you run to when God can't figure out how to treat your life threatening disease. Stop pushing you archaic idea onto everyone else. It is not my religion and it shouldn't be near the god damn super bowl. Plus all your kids turn out to be pregnant drug addicts anyway. Hopefully Tebow's Mom can keep him of the gay prostitute meth track of Christian life.
January 30, 2010 at 5:04 pm
Sorry – I meant Tebow will be found with a gay prostitute and meth. Your views are outdated and have been manipulated by your leaders to help keep you sheep in line with whatever they want to do. Tebow's Mom has to come out and clear the air. It's he 2. million dollar job to do it. Your kids are becoming less Christian every time they step out the door. Your fake made up World where you pick and choose what and how to believe does not matter to them when they are out sinning with their friends. Leave them alone. Let them become smart so our country doesn't regress back to slavery. By the way your religion tried to justify that too. LIARRRRRRRRRRS
January 30, 2010 at 5:34 pm
Justin,
You poor, sad, pathetic man! This "Christian liar" will pray for you. When someone is as unhappy and angry as you seem to be, you need our prayers desperately. I know, you don't want my prayers, but I don't think that our government, or the right-to-deather's have been able to figure out how to stop us from praying for them yet. So we will continue.
Remember, God wins in the end!!
January 30, 2010 at 6:13 pm
Justin, I WILL ALSO PRAY FOR YOU AND YOUR EMPTY, UNHAPPY LIFE. I AM VERY PROUD AND HAPPY TO BE A CHRISTIAN LIAR. BY THE WAY, YOU FORGOT TO MENTION THE RIGHT TO LIFE FOR THE BABY. lAST I KNEW, THAT WAS A CONSTUTIONAL RIGHT TO LIFE, LIBERTY AND PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS.
January 30, 2010 at 7:32 pm
A doctor would not have recommended abortion, even in a country where it is legal. He/she would have advised the patient about the side effects of metronidazole which include premature birth/miscarriage.
So either Pam Tebow didn't listen to what the doctors told her, didn't understand what the doctors told her, or is fibbing.
Pro-life groups should be concerned this kind of misinformation (or deliberate fib) will undermine their cause. Because for every made-up story about choosing life over abortion (like this one) there are hundreds or thousands of real stories about women who choose life, many times when their own health was at risk.
January 30, 2010 at 8:36 pm
The “church” that Tebow’s parents run put on their website that “90% of the people in the Phillipines have yet to hear the word of Jesus Christ”.
Here's what the World Factbook has to say:
Roman Catholic 80.9%
Evangelical 2.8%
Iglesia ni Kristo (Anglican) 2.3%
other Christian 4.5%
I make that to be an over 90% Christian country.
January 30, 2010 at 9:15 pm
William McNichols said.
I ahve a suggestion for Super Bowl 1/2 Time.
go to (WARNING) http://www.abotionno.org
Then America will wake up and thak God
for Pam Tebow and Tim.
January 30, 2010 at 10:05 pm
Anonymous said…
"A doctor would not have recommended abortion, even in a country where it is legal. He/she would have advised the patient about the side effects of metronidazole which include premature birth/miscarriage.
So either Pam Tebow didn't listen to what the doctors told her, didn't understand what the doctors told her, or is fibbing."
Sorry, Anonymous, but many doctors right here in the U.S. will very easily recommend abortion in a great many cases where it's not medically necessary at all.
Case in point: my mom got pregnant back in 1976, when she was 42, not long after Roe v. Wade. She had previously had a baby with RH-positive blood, and had been "sensitized." There was a possibility of complications – totally treatable ones – with the baby. She was also at greater risk for a Down Syndrome child because of her age. The doctor she spoke to recommended she abort, just like that. No real medical necessity. No one knew whether she was carrying a Down Syndrome child or not, or what other complications she would actually have. Thank God she didn't listen to his advice, or my wonderful and perfectly healthy sister would never have been born. (And my mom would never have aborted, even if she knew she was having a Down Syndome child).
There are many, many cases like this. Doctors with a pro-abortion mentality will often urge abortion for conditions that they think can lead to complications because it's more convenient. They are afraid of pregnancy complications that might lead to malpractice suits if a child survives pregnancy and is mentally or physically damaged. No need to suppose Pam Tebow is lying. I hope the ad helps many women in this situation think about getting a second opinion.
January 30, 2010 at 11:25 pm
I've now gone back and read statements Mrs Tebow previously made. She didn't say her own life was at risk, so not sure why everybody's making it out as if it was, citing some exception in law which would make an abortion legal in the Phillippines.
Talk about coincidence, but my mother was RH- and so am I. So know the risks (to baby; no real risk to mother), and I had one miscarriage, so the thought that a doctor would recommend aborting a potentially healthy child is particularly repugnant to me. (And I believe your story, even though I am not sure about Mrs Tebow's).
January 30, 2010 at 11:46 pm
Well, Anonymous, thanks for believing my story, but since you do apparently admit that I undermined your reason for not believing Pam Tebow's story, why do you still doubt it? Stubbornness?
January 31, 2010 at 12:57 am
Why is Justin so zealous for the value of education?
His own post reveals only illiteracy and carelessness.
Do I need to make a list and distinguish between "you're" and "your"?
Justin, go get an education — an elementary education — for your own benefit.
January 31, 2010 at 1:07 am
Why don't I believe Pam Tebow's story? Because it makes no sense in her case that a doctor would suggest it. I will give her the benefit of the doubt and say she misunderstood what the doctor told her.
If the story line is, "They told me I could lose the baby, so I decided to take extra good care of myself", or "I had been very sick before I got pregnant so it was kind of a miracle that Tim was conceived, much less born", then that would be correct by all accounts, but it wouldn't be as compelling, would it?
January 31, 2010 at 1:33 am
It made no sense for the doctor to say it in my mother's case either, but he did! My mother could have lost the baby due to the RH factor, so the doctor said abort. Makes no sense. Pam Tebow's mother might have lost the baby due to dysentery. So: abort. Makes no sense. Unfortunately some doctors say things that don't make sense.
I don't know Pam Tebow's whole story (neither do you, I'm sure), so there must have been something about the case that triggered the doctor's reaction.
In my Mom's case, I think I can guess what the doctor's thinking was. "Hey, this married lady of 42 already has eight kids, her husband is ill, they don't have much money, and these Catholics never know when to stop." (to keep things short, I didn't mention these items the first time). So he thought he should tell her what was best for her. But you know what? The abortion was STILL medically unnecessary. But some doctors think that way. Of course, I don't know very much about the Tebow case beyond what I've read in a few places, including here. But I'm amazed you would jump to the conclusion you did.