Wait, I thought this was exclusively a Catholic problem!? I’m sure we’ll be seeing hundreds of news articles about this, a few movies, and dozens of books on the subject. Oh wait, the elites like public schools so…never mind.
Van Helsing writes:
To evaluate the performance of Comrade Obama’s Safe Schools Czar Kevin Jennings, let’s circumvent the establishment media’s Obamunist whitewash and listen to what the British media has to say:
Convicted paedophiles are finding it easy to get jobs in schools because teachers are failing to stop them and hushing up cases of abuse, an official report has found.
December 20, 2010 at 9:40 pm
This is, sadly. old news. Even if the number of offenders who have previous convictions were kept out of schools, those who are sexually attracted to children will be attracted to jobs that allow contact with children.
Psychiatrists will often tell you that pedophiles are incurable. That is why the Diagnostic Service Manual has dropped pedophiles from their list of disorders, unless the pedophile's own life is hurt by his/her actions. It doesn't matter if there are others who are hurt, only the pedophile. This is the same reasoning used by the DSM to deny homosexuality, incest, bestiality, and a host of other abhorrent practices as being disordered.
The ultimate goal of those who protect destructively deviant sexuality is to force us to keep our eyes on the red herring. It goes like this:
"See that Catholic priest? He chose to never have sex again. Isn't that weird? Everyone has sex. It's as normal as breathing. Even the Chileans in the coal mine had to be having sex with each other because, well, you can't live without it can you? Boys will be boys and that means they never think above their waist for more than a few seconds at a time. Given the choice between food and sex, most men would choose…"
Sorry for the Harry Reid-like mention of the Chilean miners. This kind of insanity drives me nuts.
We live in a culture of death: Death to commitment through fruitless sex, death to love through meaningless sex, death to friendship through the assumption of sex, death to children through the assault of sex…
December 20, 2010 at 10:25 pm
There's a whole section over at Interested Participant called "Women with Troubles" that's got a huge number of female teachers in it.
December 21, 2010 at 12:17 am
In a diverse public school system, one accommodates every cult – even the one that allows marriages with 6 year olds. It's in the present day Sharia Law because the false prophets did it with Aisha. Now we know why the Obammer admin gave out condoms to 1st graders. For more details on the topic cfr. http://divine-ripples.blogspot.com/2010/12/sex-lives-or-lack-thereof-of-moses.html
December 21, 2010 at 1:38 am
Attention Priest!!! "paedophiles are finding it easy to get jobs in schools because teachers are failing to stop them and hushing up cases of abuse, an official report has found."
December 21, 2010 at 1:42 am
The tone of the post is way off base. A little like "see" other people are doing it too, not just Catholic Priest.
The bottom line is that no one should be molesting children. Just because teachers in schools are doing it doesn't mean it's okay for Priest to molest.
December 21, 2010 at 2:52 am
Dear Totally Unhip Mom:
This is not an 'excuse the priests' story.
This is a 'media won't attack the public schools like they did the priests' story.
No one said priests should be given a pass. The point is that pedophiles have been taking jobs in schools for years in order to be close to children. Not all priests are in jobs with that kind of access. While the percentage of priests who are pedophiles is between 1 and 5%, commensurate with the general population, the percentage of public school teachers who are abusive is higher than the average in the general public.
"Now, on the heels of the Catholic abuse scandal comes another of historic proportions—one that has the potential to be much greater and far-reaching. According to a draft report commissioned by the U.S. Department of Education, in compliance with the 2002 "No Child Left Behind" act signed into law by President Bush, between 6 percent and 10 percent of public school children across the country have been sexually abused or harassed by school employees and teachers.
"Charol Shakeshaft, the Hofstra University scholar who prepared the report, said the number of abuse cases—which range from unwanted sexual comments to rape—could be much higher."
That is twice the rate of priest abusers, and only represents those cases that are reported.
December 21, 2010 at 3:13 am
Just because teachers in schools are doing it doesn't mean it's okay for Priest to molest.
Wow, thanks for that newsflash, unhip. Until I read your comment I totally thought Matt was giving the greenlight for molestation. Thanks for the clarification.
December 21, 2010 at 3:15 am
Catholic Mom
There is too much width in the public school report so that it cannot be compared with reports on Catholic priests. Look at the phrases "harassed by school employees and teachers"…. and…."range from unwanted sexual comments to rape". I taught in big city public schools long ago and if in especially ghetto schools, you have low paid young teacher's assistants who come from the ghetto, it borders on predictable that at least some of them will make a flirty comment to a sexily dressed older student now and then because such trash talking is simply very normal in that neighborhood. If a scholar then counts myriad instances of that side by side with rape, the resultant figures are distorted by definition. Conversely our priest offenders may have said nothing in the nature of flirty talf and so that goes uncounted.
The media is naturally drawn to the hypocritical in the sexual area more so than being drawn to offenses of those who do not preach.
But to compare a study with wide parameters that stretch from verbal trash talk to rape….to compare that to narrow parameter studies of priests is not a viable exercise.
December 21, 2010 at 7:04 am
But the huge different between the two groups is that the Public Schools are searching, reporting, firing and convicting the teachers that molest children, while the Catholic Church pray for the molesting Priest and transfers them to another Church.
There's huge difference in the two approaches.
December 21, 2010 at 7:15 am
Richard-
either fail troll, or you just can't read….
Convicted paedophiles are finding it easy to get jobs in schools because teachers are failing to stop them and hushing up cases of abuse, an official report has found.
In nearly three-quarters of school abuse cases the offender already had a criminal record for paedophilia but was allowed to work there anyway.
Worryingly, more than half of the offenders went on to use their new positions to claim more victims than they had done before.
So, known abusers put with kids.
When you find a case where a known child-abuser was made a priest, and he went on to abuse children, holler, kk?
December 21, 2010 at 9:59 am
@ Foxfier: HOLLER!!! but there are COUNTLESS cases where the Church's HIERARCHY knows about priests molesting children and either do nothing about it or encourage them to transfer to another Church.
December 21, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Because of the report's findings, George Miller, the Democrat who initially asked for the study, is introducing H.R. 6547, Protecting Students from Sexual and Violent Predators Act today.
Moonbattery feebly attempts to pin this on Kevin Jennings even though the study looked at cases ranging from 2007-2009.
Jennings wasn't even the czar until the summer of 2009.
December 21, 2010 at 2:12 pm
Endowed by OUR CREATOR with certain unalienable rights Life Liberty and the pursuit of happiness. The victimized child is denied their pursuit of happiness in growing to take possession of their mature human body, their liberty in living their life without sexual assualt but also the acknowedgement by all persons of their sovereignty as persons created equal is secure as expounded in the Preamble of the constitution "the blessings of liberty for ourselves and our posterity." All civil rights of this present generation and our posterity are held in trust by our parents, the state and the Catholic church. A criminal violates not only the sovereignty of the person by physical assualt but by scandalizing the soul of the child. The criminal violates the trust placed in him as a human being by God and the human race, as citizen by the state and as an equal by the innocent victim. This trust, preserved and reverenced is the least requirement of any one person. The aiding and abbetting of any criminal in the pursuit of his crime is punishable by the same penalty required for the perpetrator.North American Man Boy Love Association violates this trust holding sexual consent by the parents, the state and the church, requiring the adult to obtain sexual consent from the parents, the parents giving it, the state must become a legal guardian and if the state fails to protect the trust of sexual consent for minor children, the church upholding the truth must always be the beacon for the protection of all civil rights in trust for every sovereign human being ever created.
December 21, 2010 at 2:17 pm
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL and HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO BABY JESUS
December 21, 2010 at 2:18 pm
Anon,
In my little neck of the woods, there has been one child abuse case , which involved a priest and three teen boys. It occured during the 1980s. However, in just the last 10 years there has been over 15 cases of teachers, coaches, and or administrators sleeping with thier students. This covers 4 school districts. Do the math. And I live in a semi-rural area.
The statistics are not are your side. School districts are much more dangerous places for children than any dioceses ever was.
December 21, 2010 at 2:27 pm
Anon: Pope Benedict XVI said that all child molesters must be turned over to the police IMMEDIALTELY. I say all child molesters must be imprisoned for the rest of their lives, a life for a life. The civil rights of another sovereign person entrusted, must be preserved by the parents, by the citizen, by the state, by the church. Let him who is contemplating a crime take note: he will no longer enjoy the sovereignty or the freedom of the innocent.
December 21, 2010 at 4:04 pm
Public school teachers have been messing around with kids for a very long time and up until recently it was always hushed up. In 1962, a teacher at my mother's high school was finally caught in the act. He'd been "dating" teenaged boys for years. He was fired and quietly allowed to leave town becuase nobody wanted scandal.
December 21, 2010 at 4:44 pm
Jerome,
The problem with your microcosm example is that you have not told us what percent Catholics are in your area versus the country where they are 25%. Nor is any study telling us whether the public school abusers were Catholic or non Catholic. What I am pointing out is that the studies are not comparable because they have diverse parameters…..and secondly, we are presuming the public school abusers are non Catholic. We simply do not know that nor will we ever know that. I think our abusers were a small percent but our authorities who handled it inadequately were a large percent and thatbis partly from Pope John XXIII sending a letter which bound them to secrecy if sex abuse was tied to the confessional. The letter was meant to protect the seal of the confessional but it may have been used badly in that secrecy then spread to cases that had nothing to do with the confessional. The abusers were a small number…the bad management of them was pervasive and the letter which is online may have played a part in that.
December 21, 2010 at 6:16 pm
Not to bust anyone’s chops but the DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders – not “Diagnostic Service Manual”) has most definitely NOT removed pedophilia from it’s list of sexual behavior disorders. It is in fact designated as 302.2.
I don’t know of anyone who has claimed that child sexual abuse, exploitation or seduction of adolescents is strictly or even mainly a Catholic problem. I do know that the press focused in on them, probably because of the nature of priests anally raping children, and the majority, MAJORITY of American bishops engaging in a 60+ year campaign of lies and slander to try and cover it up. I mean really, why should any bishop in america be afforded any credibility? Perhaps someone could point that out for me?
I know of no superintendant or principal who, upon moving a teacher from one school to another, then lied to the parents of a raped child and told them the problem was “taken care of.” I know of no school official who, upon discovering a coach sodomizing a 13 yr old student, decided that the coach was simply a poor soul, suffering an identity crisis, but that the 13 yr old needed to be threated with public exposure as a fag. Finally, I know of no parents who, upon learning of a student being abused by a teacher, claimed that the poor teacher must have been seduced and that the student was really asking for it as I’ve heard SO VERY MANY CATHOLICS claim.
Perhaps someone would be willing to fill in the blanks for me?
Check out bishop-accountability.org, it has a lot more credibility than the catholic media figures.
December 21, 2010 at 9:19 pm
Doug, you're missing the point, and also ignorant of what has happened in public schools. There have been numerous cases of school districts moving problem teachers from one place to another, of recommending a teacher to another district and failing to mention accusations of molestation, and so forth. I don't have time to get you some links, but search for it and you'll find plenty of such stories.
I don't know what Catholics you've been talking to, but I haven't met any who claimed that the victims of abuse by priests were "asking for it".
Nobody is claiming that it's a Catholic problem, but the point of the original article here was how the media coverage, hard on the Catholic Church (and rightly so), is so weak, meek, and uninterested in covering/digging into teachers, public schools, and unions. There are many more teachers than priests, and they have a great deal more access to children. We should ignore it and only focus on Catholic Priests in depth? No. Put pressure on, and find, all of the abusers and enablers, not just the ones wearing a Roman collar.