It seems that Paul Ryan is not so Catholic after all?
Rep. Ryan has now gone on record supporting gay adoption, even as Catholic institutions that are closing to avoid the immoral practice.
The 2012 Republican vice presidential nominee — and potential 2016 GOP presidential contender — announced his change of heart during a town hall event in Janesville, Wis. this week, WKOW-TV reported. He voted to ban same-sex adoption in the District of Columbia as a newly-minted congressman in 1999.
“Adoption, I’d vote differently these days,” Ryan said Monday. “I do believe that if there are children who are orphans who do not have a loving person or couple, you know, I think if a person wants to love and raise a child they ought to be able to do that. Period. So I would vote that way.”
He then tried to bolster his bonafides by saying he doesn’t support gay marriage.
With logic like this, I suppose that the best that can be said of him is that he doesn’t support gay marriage…yet.
I am very disappointed in Rep. Ryan. I suggest that all the Catholic adoption agencies that face extinction or have already perished for refusing to support gay adoption give Rep. Ryan a call.
May 2, 2013 at 2:59 pm
I knew he was a phony when he caved in a few months ago and agreed to raise taxes. I no longer trust the Republican Party. It's over. After the last election I am never voting again. Why bother. Romney/Ryan lost because they refused to promote conservative ideals. They were to worried about offending Obama. Now that I see Ryan really is a phony I'm glad he lost. At least Obama is honest about his beliefs.
May 2, 2013 at 3:09 pm
Unless the GOP at the national level starts to espouse genuine traditional, Christian ideas and morals, I'll never vote in a national election again. I will vote in local and state elections if the candidates are known to be steadfast in their commitment to the same.
May 2, 2013 at 3:52 pm
I think the effort of all politicians-both parties to exempt themselves from Obama care speaks volumes about all of them in DC–sweep all the bums out & find those who are not afraid to truly stand up for their beliefs. I think they would be surprised at the support. Sodom & Gommorah is here
May 2, 2013 at 4:27 pm
Put your faith in no man
May 2, 2013 at 4:36 pm
What he said was he would have voted differently on that specific bill which banned gay adoption in DC. He is now saying that adoption agencies should be able to place children with any individual they wish, not that Catholic adoption agencies should be forced to place children with gay couples.
May 2, 2013 at 4:59 pm
As a Wisconsinite, allow me to assure you on one thing: Mr Ryan is first and foremost a Republican hack. His first allegiance is to the Republican Party,…full stop. It has always been this way. He has no convictions whatsoever, and never has.
As for his Catholic faith….well, considering the state of the Church today I am fairly certain he was never properly instructed from grade school on up.
May 2, 2013 at 5:03 pm
A female husband and a male wife. The children will never be ale to comprehend being lied to in a rational way.
May 2, 2013 at 5:44 pm
Don't tell me you won't vote for him if/when he runs in 2016. Hypocrite.
May 2, 2013 at 5:52 pm
Very disappointing. Better that a child remain in foster care or an orphanage than in a home where the adults engage in and promote unnatural sex. Would like him to explain how this is a healthy environment for raising children. Also, didn't I recently read, on this blog I believe, that 50+% of children raised by practicing homosexuals identify themselves as being gay? Nature or nurture?
May 2, 2013 at 6:13 pm
One would imagine after enough disappointments from political idols that one would quit expecting divinity from them.
May 2, 2013 at 6:21 pm
Stupid. You'd think if he were to cave in a logical way he would first approve gay marriage, but leave the kids out of it. That's all I really care about – let people make their fake little arrangements and call them what they want, but don't deprive a child of his/her natural right to a mother and a father. It's child abuse.
Yet, I would vote for Paul Ryan if my other choice is even worse. Your vote is not a marriage or something. It's just a tool with which you limit the bad and encourage the good. That's all. Elevating it to a glorious, mystical, metaphysical plane through which the whole of your faith and life is expressed leaves you with no one pure enough to vote for, and while your fellow citizens are out putting their .02 in, you're home twiddling your sacred thumbs.
But, I get the anger though. I live in that land.
May 2, 2013 at 6:58 pm
Fr Bill, you are of course correct here. These blogger have a tendency to idolize politicians and their schills/commentators regardless of the fact that they are Protestant/heretics (these odd-balls have a major "jones" for the ubiquitous scarecrow, Ann Coulter). You really would think that by now they would stop blurring the lines between religious and political figures, but that's just not how they roll.
May 2, 2013 at 7:02 pm
I agree with Blackrep 100%. Most particularly his statement about fake arrangements depriving a child of his/her natural right to a mother and a father rings true and deep.
May 2, 2013 at 8:43 pm
To some extent, I agree Blackrep, but as someone else put it, those who don't vote actually have a stronger basis for complaining. Suppose you agree to place a bet on a horse race, knowing ahead of time that the race is essentially fixed, and only two of the dozen or so horses even have a shot at winning. You bet on one of the two, and your horse loses. If you complain the system is rigged, who do you have to blame for taking part it in? You consented to participate under those ciricumstances.
Seems the guy who didn't willignly participate in the charade has a stronger basis for dissing horse racing as fixed.
May 2, 2013 at 9:46 pm
I won't vote for any of them anymore on the They make me Sick Principle. If they're not for "this" immoral thing, they're for another immoral thing. And I agree we need to not expect politics to be moral. That's why I'm having nothing to do with the ugly business anymore. The GOP to the man sleeps with Jews. They are warmongers. "This" is immoral. ANONYMOUS above Refers to The Joners' for Coulter add Hannity FOR CERTAIN and so on and on. I wish Catholics would get outta bed with Fox News. Where to go? Certainly not the Other
Bed of Whores. You just have to look. It's not easy. But I finally took the Cure. I highly recommend it.
May 2, 2013 at 10:48 pm
Amen, Aly.
May 3, 2013 at 1:23 am
Does anyone here really think republicans represent Catholic values better than democrats? A few hot issues, yes. But in totality, they are both institutionalize forms of grave offenses against God. If we don't move away from both these corrupt and unethical parties and form a true Catholic or All Christian party, we lose America. They have both abandoned us. Just look.
May 3, 2013 at 3:02 am
Even before I was of age to vote (and I am 65), I identified as a Republican, tho' the Democrats' pet bishops obeyed the Kennedy oligarchy. I was wrong to identify with any secular party, of course, and have long since gotten over it. One must depend upon God, His Church, and one's own formed mind when voting.
May 3, 2013 at 5:11 am
Ryan's defense of gay adoption before gay marriage would seem to show he hasn't thought very long or hard about any of it.
He is where I was about ten years ago. I thought "of course it is better for a child to be adopted by gays than to not be adopted, to languish in foster care… even though the child will not have a mother and a father, both the child and society can respect this commitment to the welfare of the child… adopting a child is a noble thing to do."
But gays do not want to be thought of as second-best parents (note I'm not saying "second-class citizens"). Recall all the evidence presented to the Supreme Court from the "children of gays and lesbians" who were being traumatized by the continued refusal of society to recognize adoptive homosexual parents as equally good to heterosexual parents.
I wish I could go back in time and ask Sotomayor "do a couple of gay latinos need a latina to help them make wise parenting decisions?"
At the same time we are constantly being pounded with the message that Women Must Have 50% Of All Jobs In The United States…
May 3, 2013 at 9:29 pm
Just a detail. He's an Ayn Rand fan and only tangentially Catholic. No need to be especially scandalized by him, he's just one more politician. I do idly wonder if he might make a really good Can 915 test case.