And, technicalities aside, Prop 8. in California is dead paving the way for same-sex marriage there.
While many people will try to dissect these opinions and look for legal silver linings based on the narrowness of this or that part of rulings, make no mistake, as a practical matter marriage as we knew it is over. The dam has burst even if all the water has not yet traversed the breach.
But Marriage has never been the real target. Read my post at the NC Register to understand why the real target is the Church.
June 28, 2013 at 4:53 am
Secular reasons why polygamy is bad where it is the prevailing norm in a society or a sub-culture: http://tinyurl.com/7q37oct
Secular reasons why polygamous marriage is bad in and of itself: http://tinyurl.com/qbcsrx8
Also, if you will allow something of a religious argument, the real-world examples of polygamy in the Old Testament generated family problems: Sarai & Hagar, Rachel & Leah, Penninah & Hannah, the Davidic kings, etc.
June 28, 2013 at 1:44 pm
Thanks for the links. The Slate article I disagree with because it assumes closed societies, and the other article focused a bit too much on sexual relatio
Good arguments, but not strong enough to sway me yet.
June 29, 2013 at 3:35 am
NickMcC: "Rewriting today's marriage benefits is like untying the world's largest twisted ball of yarn – possible, but not likely to be done in our lifetime." Pray to Our Lady, Untier of Knots
June 29, 2013 at 3:47 am
akg41470: Religion is man's response to the gift of Faith from God. akg41470, you have rejected your gift of Faith from God and ridicule us like Goliath ridiculed David before he was slain with his own sword. I have been told that the people in heaven do not remember those who chose to go to hell. So, you want to climb on my back to get over the brimstone and fire? One of man's responses to the gift of Faith from God is marriage. Cannot take religion or God out of marriage. Cannot take God out of the secular. Even the devil is created by God.
June 29, 2013 at 4:00 am
The vocation to the office of husband for a man and the vocation to the office of wife for a woman is a call from God Himself. A claim to vocation from God, without God, is a lie. Only man is called to serve God through vocation. Without a vocation, man comes to nought. This is posted at "Sullivan"
June 29, 2013 at 8:31 pm
@Mary De Voe: zzzzzz…..
July 1, 2013 at 10:11 pm
akg: The tradition of marriage has been mostly about the children. The best family to raise children has been shown to be 1 father and 1 mother raising them together. This has proven itself to be very good for the children and for society.
Of course, families now have become very messed up which shows itself in the number of unwanted pregnancies, abortions, drugs, promiscuity, crime both violent and non-violent, etc etc etc.
Personally, I think there is plenty of blame to go around but I certainly would include contraception (where people start looking at each other as objects instead of soul mates) and stepping away from God.
akg, if no children were involved…I would be personally against it but I will have to think on it to give you a secular reason.
July 1, 2013 at 10:11 pm
akg: The tradition of marriage has been mostly about the children. The best family to raise children has been shown to be 1 father and 1 mother raising them together. This has proven itself to be very good for the children and for society.
Of course, families now have become very messed up which shows itself in the number of unwanted pregnancies, abortions, drugs, promiscuity, crime both violent and non-violent, etc etc etc.
Personally, I think there is plenty of blame to go around but I certainly would include contraception (where people start looking at each other as objects instead of soul mates) and stepping away from God.
akg, if no children were involved…I would be personally against it but I will have to think on it to give you a secular reason.