Catholic 1: I don’t like attending the Novus Ordo because it is so often done in an illicit manner.
Catholic 2: All that matters is that the mass is valid.
Catholic 1: If all that matters is the mass is valid, maybe I’ll go to an SSPX mass. SSPX masses are valid.
Catholic 2: But you can’t, they are ILLICIT!!!
And round and round we go.