Well, that’s it. Stupak and the other fictional pro-life Democrats, using the cover of a worthless Executive Order, are voting for Health-care and federally funded abortion.
I am heartbroken. Heartbroken for the lives of children that will be lost. Heartbroken that my generation was unable to bequeath to our children the liberty we inherited. I am sorry. I am heartbroken and ashamed that I ever believed in Bart Stupak and the others.
May God have mercy on the United States.
Know these things.
There is no such thing as a pro-life Democrat. I don’t ever want to hear such nonsense again. They are the Party of Death, no exceptions.
This fight is not over.
March 21, 2010 at 8:20 pm
your an ass – 60k catholic nuns want to kill babies? get real.
March 21, 2010 at 8:28 pm
For the sake of His sorrowful Passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world!!
March 21, 2010 at 8:30 pm
Invoke St. Joseph right now! St. Joseph, pray for our country that this doesn't go through!
March 21, 2010 at 8:34 pm
Perhaps not, anon. But they are owed an apology for a deficient Catholic formation somewhere along the line, since they are at a loss to comprehend that abortion is "a foundational matter of social justice and human rights. It can’t be avoided in developing our public policies without debasing the whole nature of Christian social teaching. No rights are safe when the right to life is not" (Archbishop Chaput). Either that, or they fall under the Archbishop's other description, that of partisan democrats for whom "facts don't matter".
March 21, 2010 at 8:40 pm
Anon– You are the ass. The Network nuns represent only dying orders that ceased to be Catholic in any meaningful sense decades ago.
March 21, 2010 at 8:40 pm
Never trust a Yankee! Ever.
March 21, 2010 at 8:46 pm
Anon: The Sisters of Perpetual Heresy are not Catholic nuns…they are liberal feminasty social activists with cropped hairstyles and birkenstock sandals.
March 21, 2010 at 8:53 pm
1st Anon – the NETWORK letter signatories only represent a few hundred nuns – not 60K. There are 60K nuns total in the US and the vast majority stand with the bishops and pro-lifers.
March 21, 2010 at 8:59 pm
Patrick, there may yet be some pro-life Dems out there. And we'll definitely know by the end of this vote if any of them serve in the House.
Anon#1 – you know not of what you speak.
Anon#2 – I'm with you. St. Joseph, pray for us. Our Lady of Guadalupe, intercede for us. Lord, have mercy on us and on the whole world.
Fr. Erik – thank you for your priestly ministry!
Sadly, we can thank NETWORK, LCWR, and CHA and other dissenting 'Catholic' groups for sowing seeds of confusion in these past few weeks.
The lines of division between the faithful and unfaithful, however, are becoming clearer. Let us pray for conversion of hearts to the Lord; a clearer understanding of what it means to be a Catholic; and courage to live as faithful Catholic Christians in these interesting times.
March 21, 2010 at 9:02 pm
I just emailed Bart Stupak:
"Congressman Stupak,
You are making a grave mistake.
I am proundly disappointed."
He is not easy to contact. His phones are inactive and his answering machine is full, so I found a zip-code in the Upper Peninsula (Iron Mountain, MI 49801) to use with his email contact form.
Perhaps you may want to do the same:
http://www.house.gov/stupak/IMA/issue2.htm
(But remember Matthew 5:22.)
March 21, 2010 at 9:19 pm
"Peace for our time."
March 21, 2010 at 9:19 pm
Time to suck it up, it ain't over till WE say it's over and that ain't happening till the words, "…Thy will be done ON EARTH as it is in Heaven…" come to be a reality.
March 21, 2010 at 9:26 pm
Anon at 4:20 PM wrote: "your an ass."
Please read and reflect upon Dogberry's final words in Act IV, Sc. II from Much Ado About Nothing:
Dost thou not suspect my place? Dost thou not suspect my years? O that he were here to write me down an ass! but, masters, remember that I am an ass; though it be not written down, yet forget not that I am an ass. No, thou villain, thou art full of piety, as shall be proved upon thee by good witness. I am a wise fellow; and, which is more, an officer; and, which is more, a householder; and, which is more, as pretty a piece of flesh as any in Messina; and one that knows the law, go to; and a rich fellow enough, go to; and a fellow that hath had losses; and one that hath two gowns, and everything handsome about him. Bring him away. O that I had been writ down an ass!
March 21, 2010 at 9:31 pm
I am posting as Anonymous because I don't have any poster accounts; please call me JohnK.
Patrick wrote: "There is no such thing as a pro-life Democrat. I don't ever want to hear such nonsense again. They are the Party of Death, no exceptions."
After the 2008 election, Jeff Miller wrote:
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"On the Laura Ingraham show today she had Raymond Arroyo on again and they were talking about the election and the Bishop’s meeting that he attended.
"Laura Ingraham: Here is the problem, how many of the bishops voted for Obama.
"Raymond Arroyo: …The bishops I spoke to say that maybe half of their brother bishops if not more voted for Obama. Because they thought the symbol of Obama would overcome racism and be a great healer and unity.
"This of course is total hearsay and not verifiable. If true, which I suspect it is than it certainly explains a lot. How in the world can we be surprised if 45 percent of Mass attending Catholics voted for Obama if that percentage or more of the Bishops did. Though even if this was ten or five percent it would still be scandalous."
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By the way (me again), it's not hearsay that 45 percent of Mass-attending Catholics voted for Obama. That's a roughly accurate figure based on polling data.
Finally, there is the fact that many bishops, including Chaput, largely support 'health' 'care' 'reform' as propounded by the Democratic party, and would gladly extend 'coverage' to 'immigrants' (meaning, of course, illegal immigrants).
This has not escaped the notice of many, including Calvin Freiburger who writes:
"…the US Conference of Catholic Bishops’ resolution on universal health care parrots the leftist caricature of American healthcare…Nowhere in the document will you find skepticism as to government’s ability to provide universal healthcare, concern for the individual rights and personal freedoms that such an overhaul would violate, or awareness of the potential for market-based reforms to alleviate America’s health care woes, which the USCCB exaggerates…. The intersection of Catholicism and liberalism isn’t limited to the USCCB, either. Pope Benedict and the Vatican have a history of criticizing and meddling in America’s already-meager immigration enforcement efforts, and, most recently, the Vatican’s official newspaper announced that Karl Marx wasn’t so bad after all. I kid you not."
So, Patrick; "There is no such thing as a pro-life Democrat. I don't ever want to hear such nonsense again. They are the Party of Death, no exceptions."
And all their supporters, useful idiots, and fellow-travelers, too?
March 21, 2010 at 9:41 pm
The fight's not over, Patrick, but it's time we take it to the Church.
Enough of this nonsense of the "I'm Catholic, but…" politician shmoozing in the Communion line on Sunday morning and voting to kill babies in the afternoon. It's time to call these turncoats what they are. We can't let them have the political cover of "Oh, but I waited until we had a worthless promise of a meaningless EO from the most pro-abortion president we've ever had!" either. They want to be weak on abortion, and be Catholic? Fine–but they won't stay in Congress anymore. Gloves off, people.
As for the CHA and the dissident nuns–well, where's a good old fashioned interdict when you need one?
March 21, 2010 at 9:52 pm
Anonymous said…
your an ass – 60k catholic nuns want to kill babies? get real.
First of all, it's "you're an ass."
Second of all, the fact that you jump straight to name calling underscores the integrity of YOUR point, if indeed you have one.
Factcheck.org doesn't believe Pres. Obama when he says federal money will not go to abortion (doesn't the president have ties to the Annenberg Foundation which runs Factcheck.org?); why should anyone else?
Is there a reason that it was so crucial to pass this bill on the Lord's day? Insult to injury?
March 21, 2010 at 9:55 pm
March 21, 2010 5:26 PM
Anonymous said… So, Patrick; "There is no such thing as a pro-life Democrat. I don't ever want to hear such nonsense again. They are the Party of Death, no exceptions."
And all their supporters, useful idiots, and fellow-travelers, too?
I'm not Patrick but, IMHO, yes they are. Aiding and abetting the commission of Murder.
I recently observed a lady pull out of the parking lot of a local Methodist Church. Her Mercury Grand Marquis had the following bumper sticker…Christian Democrat.
How can you you be a Christian when you advocate the murder of the unborn and our senior citizens alike???
March 21, 2010 at 9:57 pm
I don't think you can paint Bart Stupak with the same broad brush as Ben Nelson, who sold out the unborn for a hundred million pieces of silver. I think it's likely that Stupak became convinced that the bill was going to pass with or without the support of him and his dwindling coalition, and made the difficult decision that the healthcare bill with an EO was a lesser evil than the healthcare bill without an EO. In other words, he did the best he could under the circumstances, which is very different from selling out. Had the original 12 hung tight, this wouldn't have happened.
~Siobhan
March 21, 2010 at 9:59 pm
How dare you turn on Bart Stupak like this.
Do you really think this guy is a "sell out"?
Half the country already hated him, now the other half does too.
He is a man of courage and consciene though, in the tradition of St. Thomas More.
If you don't like the idea of gov't run health care, that is fine, that is all well and good. However even if a European style health care plan is stupid/bad/expensive etc. it is not evil. Toss in abortion and it is evil
Stupak made a stand and he kept abortion out of it. I am a huge fan of this blog and this is the first time I have ever found myself just outraged at something written on it.
Bart Stupak is a man all us Catholics can and should be proud of and I will continue to stand by him.
March 21, 2010 at 10:05 pm
"This fight is not over."
That is right…it has just started and will consume many years. The Democrats have split the country (again)…first as they did back over slavery; and now over the utter evil of abortion along with the tyranny of government intrusion into our lives and liberty.
Like the Volstead Act (18th Amendment) anything can be repealed. I pray that their Party is doomed for decades to come. As Rabbi of Bratslav, Nachman pleaded with his weary disciples, "Do not despair. There is no such thing as despair!"