Pro-aborts are actually accusing pro-lifers of making women cry. Yup. That’s the new tactic. The ol’ “pro-lifers are a bunch of meany pants” defense.
Fox News reports:
The requirements of Oklahoma’s new abortion law are drawing some emotional responses from patients, a clinic director said Wednesday, now that women must have an ultrasound and hear a detailed description of the fetus before the procedure can be done.
The law went into effect a day earlier, when the state Senate overrode Gov. Brad Henry’s veto of that measure and one that prohibits pregnant women from seeking damages if physicians withhold information or provide inaccurate information about their pregnancy.
“It’s been difficult for some of the patients,” said Linda Meek, executive director of Reproductive Services of Tulsa. “We’ve had patients leave the ultrasound room in tears because of what they had to hear.”
…The new statute requires the person performing the ultrasound to describe the dimensions of the fetus, whether arms, legs and internal organs are visible and whether there is cardiac activity. It also requires the doctor to turn a screen depicting the ultrasound images toward the woman to see them.
Meek said no patient at the clinic had yet canceled an abortion after hearing a description of the fetus. Jennifer Mondino, an attorney for the Center for Reproductive Rights that filed the lawsuit, said that so far no patient at the Tulsa clinic has decided to view the images.
You can understand how hard it must be for abortionists to hear crying in their clinic as they’re not used to hearing the screams of their victims (See the Silent Scream).
And here’s the kicker. I don’t believe them anyway. They’re lying that the law is having no effect on the women’s decision. It’s interesting to watch because these abortionists are really walking a fine line here because they have to argue that the information these women is so traumatizing that they’re breaking out in tears but then they have to turn around and argue that it also has no effect on the women’s decision. It’s really a Catch-22 for abortionists.
These abortionists are fighting tooth and nail to have this law overturned because they know when a woman hears the truth or sees the truth they are much more likely not to get an abortion. They don’t give a hoot about these women. They care about the cost of the abortion. That’s it.
April 29, 2010 at 4:04 am
"We've had patients leave the ultrasound room in tears because of what they had to hear."
So in the future any therapy needed by post abortive mothers can be laid at the door of this "cruel and inhumane" law. I'd try that as a macabre joke but it will probably happen.
April 29, 2010 at 10:50 am
Actually, it's the measure that "prohibits pregnant women from seeking damages if physicians withhold information or provide inaccurate information about their pregnancy" that is drawing the most ire.
The law says its OK for doctors to lie to pregnant women and withhold information about birth defects from them.
April 29, 2010 at 11:16 am
One wonders why pro-lifers would support a measure that allows doctors to lie to pregnant women about the state of their pregnancy.
If pro-lifers actually believed the "abortionists lie" meme, I would think they would be extremely worried that money-grubbing, "culture of death" abortionists would lie to make more pregnant women have abortions.
I guess that means they know the meme isn't true or they wouldn't be celebrating the veto override.
April 29, 2010 at 2:46 pm
Was this one bill, containing two measures?
Or, are there two separate bills, one with the
women must have an ultrasound and hear a detailed description of the fetus language,
and another with one that prohibits pregnant women from seeking damages if physicians withhold information…?
If they are two separate bills, I can see how Craig makes this conclusion:
I guess that means they know the meme isn't true or they wouldn't be celebrating the veto override.
If these aspects are all in one bill, it could also be a case that pro-lifers see this is as as net gain, knowing that politics is the art of the possible.
April 29, 2010 at 3:04 pm
They were two seperate bills, however I was incorrect about what the second bill stipulated.
It only stipulates that a woman cannot sue a doctor because his/her lies "contributed to the mother not having obtained an abortion".
So its really a win/win for pro-lifers all around. As long as "abortionists lie" for pro-life reasons, its A-OK.
Although, I still wonder why pro-lifers think "culture of death" doctors would do such a thing.
April 29, 2010 at 3:48 pm
Craig – not every doctor a pregnant woman deals with is performing abortions. I think the bill is designed to protect OB-GYNs who either intentionally don't mention or accidentally miss that a developing baby shows signs of a disability, and to prevent "wrongful birth" lawsuits.
April 29, 2010 at 4:05 pm
Craig: Couldn't it be that people here in Oklahoma care enough about life that they don't want legal claims being brought against doctors for which an essential element is that a mother should have been able to kill her (now living) child? How would you like to be little Johnny (later in life) and learn that your own mother voluntarily got involved in litigation because she was prevented (by lack of information) from killing you. That is so F'd up it makes my head hurt.
April 29, 2010 at 4:37 pm
Anyone know who's performing the ultrasounds? Is it the abortion clinic or an outside radiological firm(s)?
No surprise that no woman has looked at the screen so far. I am wondering if the tech is saying "I have to turn the screen to you, but you don't have to look."
April 29, 2010 at 4:45 pm
David said…
"Craig: Couldn't it be that people here in Oklahoma care enough about life that they don't want legal claims being brought against doctors for which an essential element is that a mother should have been able to kill her (now living) child? How would you like to be little Johnny (later in life) and learn that your own mother voluntarily got involved in litigation because she was prevented (by lack of information) from killing you. That is so F'd up it makes my head hurt."
-Amen.
April 30, 2010 at 12:02 am
Veritas Vincit Omnia
April 30, 2010 at 7:17 am
I would question whether or not the law is even being enforced… who's to say that they're even DOING what the law requires?
My money's on "no" they're not.