I think we need to explain to the non-Catholic pro-lifers about the link between contraception and abortion. If they don't get it, we should part company, for it will send mixed messages to the people we are trying to reach and it will confuse the people on our side.
Buying a ticket to the lefty, looney Hollywood movie is like passing cash to abortionist and supporting Obama's campaign. It goes against the Catholic Church.
He makes some good points, but he does it in such a smug and condescending way I can't listen to this guy. Can you imagine the Holy Father speaking with that kind of an attitude?
No offense, but we all have different gifts, we are called to preach the gospel in different ways. Every one of us has been given our own idividulal mission from God to reach certain people in a unique way that only our own individual gifts are able. While he may not speak to you, he has clearly reached a group of people who were starving for the faith.
Can I imagine the Holy Father speaking that way? Of course I can't, he has been given the grace of orders. And an even far greater grace when he was given the keys to the kingdom of God.
I wish that before we as Catholics would condemn people who are doing Solid, orthodox work, we would think for two seconds that there way is not the only way to reach people. A perfect example. St. Francis of Assissi, whom I love because he was a Catholic Saint, but, someone I had to learn to understand. He didn't really speak to me. Vs. St. Thomas Aquinas(http://makingthingsvisible.blogspot.com/) whose feast day we just celebrated and my patron, and I just wrote a blog about at the posted link(Shameless plug), whom I was immediately drawn to. Completely different approaches to the faith, both holy, orthodox, and faithful. One spoke to me, one did not. But, both are amazing canonized saints.
Each of us has a long way to go to love purely, to make every word we speak a pure and holy gift. But, we each have different gifts and they will manifest themselves in different ways. Voris is doing hard work that has probably earned him a ton of criticism and persecution. We should pray for him, for his continued growth in holiness, his continued courage and the purity of his heart. Not to mention thanksgiving for the countless souls that have no doubt returned to the Church as a result of his work.
By the way…I am not one of his disciples…I re-verted in 2001, by committing myself to the rosary and the reading the scriptures. I only recently learned about the Vortex. Not even a subscriber..
Siobahn,
I'm sure John the Baptist lost his head for the same reason Christ was Crucified…Because they didn't act and speak in ways that were pleasing to our ears. They grated on the nerves, and the public grew weary of their "attitudes" so they "did away with them". Smug? Condescending? sure. From my estimation though he's spot on in most of his posts…Don't allow the delivery to distract you from the message.
His hair? A little ruffled. His smug attitude? Very self assured. His message? Spot on! His supporters? Growing in numbers! His detractors? Fuming that he's "dodgy" when they know MV is upright and outfront.
I posted this at my Facebook profile. The commenters were more upset about his use of the term "Protestant heresy" than his point, which nobody refuted or even mentioned.
I found that kind of telling, myself.
well, if you read the gospels, it seems John and Jesus met their fates from the hands of the powers that be, precisely because the public at large seemed interested (or at least intrigued) by what they were saying, and the "authorities" were getting a bit nervous. Not that the public or the authorities really understood the message.
January 29, 2011 at 2:25 pm
duh….. Some Crisis Pregnancy centers offer advice on contraception to married couples.
Schizophrenic.
Since when should a child be considered a consequence?
January 29, 2011 at 3:16 pm
I'm a new comer to the Vortex, but I wish I'd paid attention sooner.
January 29, 2011 at 4:21 pm
I think we need to explain to the non-Catholic pro-lifers about the link between contraception and abortion. If they don't get it, we should part company, for it will send mixed messages to the people we are trying to reach and it will confuse the people on our side.
January 29, 2011 at 5:19 pm
Buying a ticket to the lefty, looney Hollywood movie is like passing cash to abortionist and supporting Obama's campaign. It goes against the Catholic Church.
January 29, 2011 at 6:12 pm
He makes some good points, but he does it in such a smug and condescending way I can't listen to this guy. Can you imagine the Holy Father speaking with that kind of an attitude?
January 29, 2011 at 7:17 pm
Siobhan,
No offense, but we all have different gifts, we are called to preach the gospel in different ways. Every one of us has been given our own idividulal mission from God to reach certain people in a unique way that only our own individual gifts are able. While he may not speak to you, he has clearly reached a group of people who were starving for the faith.
Can I imagine the Holy Father speaking that way? Of course I can't, he has been given the grace of orders. And an even far greater grace when he was given the keys to the kingdom of God.
I wish that before we as Catholics would condemn people who are doing Solid, orthodox work, we would think for two seconds that there way is not the only way to reach people. A perfect example. St. Francis of Assissi, whom I love because he was a Catholic Saint, but, someone I had to learn to understand. He didn't really speak to me. Vs. St. Thomas Aquinas(http://makingthingsvisible.blogspot.com/) whose feast day we just celebrated and my patron, and I just wrote a blog about at the posted link(Shameless plug), whom I was immediately drawn to. Completely different approaches to the faith, both holy, orthodox, and faithful. One spoke to me, one did not. But, both are amazing canonized saints.
Each of us has a long way to go to love purely, to make every word we speak a pure and holy gift. But, we each have different gifts and they will manifest themselves in different ways. Voris is doing hard work that has probably earned him a ton of criticism and persecution. We should pray for him, for his continued growth in holiness, his continued courage and the purity of his heart. Not to mention thanksgiving for the countless souls that have no doubt returned to the Church as a result of his work.
By the way…I am not one of his disciples…I re-verted in 2001, by committing myself to the rosary and the reading the scriptures. I only recently learned about the Vortex. Not even a subscriber..
Peace Ron
January 29, 2011 at 7:31 pm
Siobahn,
I'm sure John the Baptist lost his head for the same reason Christ was Crucified…Because they didn't act and speak in ways that were pleasing to our ears. They grated on the nerves, and the public grew weary of their "attitudes" so they "did away with them". Smug? Condescending? sure. From my estimation though he's spot on in most of his posts…Don't allow the delivery to distract you from the message.
January 29, 2011 at 7:55 pm
Michael Voris rocks!
–William
January 29, 2011 at 8:30 pm
Siobhan,
My problem at first was his hair. I have since recognized this as a shallow distraction from a very good message. đŸ˜‰
January 29, 2011 at 9:34 pm
His hair? A little ruffled. His smug attitude? Very self assured. His message? Spot on! His supporters? Growing in numbers! His detractors? Fuming that he's "dodgy" when they know MV is upright and outfront.
January 29, 2011 at 11:05 pm
His hair – ah, the bad Donald Trump do — or is it early 80s Ted Koppel? Either way, it looks like a wig to me. Michael, you need a better rug!
I also think he's smug and condescending in his attitude. There's no need to be.
But his arguments admittedly are prett tight.
January 29, 2011 at 11:08 pm
The hair ruined it from me. I couldn't watch it, in it's entirety.
January 30, 2011 at 4:24 pm
Dear Michael, I apologize for bringing up the hair. It has taken these comments down a rabbit hole, and away from your excellent points. I am sorry.
January 30, 2011 at 5:26 pm
Ok, ok, Mom–you were right.
January 30, 2011 at 7:23 pm
I posted this at my Facebook profile. The commenters were more upset about his use of the term "Protestant heresy" than his point, which nobody refuted or even mentioned.
I found that kind of telling, myself.
January 30, 2011 at 7:59 pm
Heather,
I posted it at my FB too, and no one has commented on it at all.
Also kind of telling.
January 31, 2011 at 6:21 pm
well, if you read the gospels, it seems John and Jesus met their fates from the hands of the powers that be, precisely because the public at large seemed interested (or at least intrigued) by what they were saying, and the "authorities" were getting a bit nervous. Not that the public or the authorities really understood the message.