CMR reported on this attack on a Catholic Church late last month. The protesters were marching for abortion. But I hadn’t seen this video until now so I’m sharing it with you. This is disturbing. Remember that the press kept saying it was only a “small” group that entered the Church. This doesn’t look small. It looks scary.
August 10, 2013 at 6:22 am
So why didn't good Catholics move as a group and throw them out of the cathedral with force!
August 10, 2013 at 12:11 pm
In September of 2012, there was a pro-abortion/'women's issues'
demonstration in Buenos Aires. A mob of about 500 attacked the
cathedral and were kept at bay only because Catholics linked arms
and blocked the entrances. The mob screamed at them, spat on them,
struck them and spray-painted them while the Catholics took their
abuse and recited the rosary. From what I've seen on video, the
police simply stood by and watched.
YouTube has videos– search for "Argentina cathedral demonstration".
It's horrifying.
At the time of the attack, the Cardinal Archbishop of Buenos Aires was
the man who would be our present Pope Francis.
August 11, 2013 at 10:40 pm
I couldnt find that one, there is one marked as having happened on Aug 17 2008, but not the one you describe. Can you post a link? Has it been removed?
August 10, 2013 at 12:40 pm
Try this in MOSQUES… please try.
August 10, 2013 at 1:03 pm
The devil hates life and uses people to attack it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp0oMKGFTyk
August 10, 2013 at 1:34 pm
The person in the video is approaching evangelization in a most improper manner. He attacks people. Dumb way to convince people.
August 10, 2013 at 2:02 pm
This is why we have the Knights of Columbus and their swords! It's time for the Knights to rise up and use the weapons they have been given.
August 10, 2013 at 9:36 pm
What was it Jesus said? Oh yes, I remember, "He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword." We have a Catholic obligation to non violence. If you don't know this, you don't understand the history of the martyrs of our church.
August 10, 2013 at 10:25 pm
You're right Ron, there is absolutely no Catholic tradition of military ethics or circumstances that Catholics consider the use of force to be justifiable. None whatsoever.
August 10, 2013 at 11:52 pm
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August 11, 2013 at 12:06 am
'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.'
― G.K. Chesterton
@ Ron & Sophia's Favorite: I guess the two of you haven't been reading St Augustine, St Thomas Aquinas, or the Catechism recently. Why do I say that? Because all of them deal with when it is justifiable and even necessary to use force. If the use of force is unjustifiable, then the existence of both the military and the police departments is something that Catholics should oppose. Ready to start picketing your local precinct? I didn't think so.
We have a responsibility as Catholics to know our faith. All of it. Not just the parts we like. In regard to this topic, I suggest the two of you start with St Augustine's Letter 189, St Thomas Aquinas' Summa Theologica, Question 40, and The Catechism of the Catholic Church, part 3, section 2, chapter 2, article 5, III (paragraphs 2302 through 2317).
Is martyrdom glorious and to be desired? Yes! But, there are many saints of the Church who were not only not martyrs, but warriors, or both. Saints like St Joan of Arc who led troops into battle. St Louis IX and St Alfred the Great who wielded the sword in defense of their people and the Church. St Olaf of Norway and St Oswald of Northumbria were warriors who were martyred in battle! How's that for epic saintliness and badassery? And of course, we have Doctor of the Church, St Bernard of Clairvaux. Without his preaching, the Second Crusade would not have even happened.
Should we go out picking fights? No. But when the enemies of the Church bring the fight to us, we shouldn't be spineless cowards and twist the words of our Lord to justify our own lack of courage in the face of danger. We're Catholics, not Mennonites. Let's start acting like it. If somebody comes into my local church and tries to desecrate the altars, the statues of the saints, or our Lord in the tabernacle, they better come ready for a fight. You may be tolerant of the sin of blasphemy in the name of non-violence and 'peace', but like Phineas at Peor, I ain't havin' none of it!
'O ye who listen to me! Hasten to appease the anger of Heaven, but no longer implore its goodness by vain complaints. Clothe yourselves in sackcloth, but also cover yourselves with your impenetrable bucklers. The din of arms, the danger, the labours, the fatigues of war, are the penances that God now imposes upon you. Hasten then to expiate your sins by victories over the Infidels, and let the deliverance of the holy places be the reward of your repentance. Cursed be he who does not stain his sword with blood.'
– St Bernard of Clairvaux
August 12, 2013 at 12:51 pm
Amen.
August 11, 2013 at 4:39 am
Shocking!! But not really World Youth Day Masses look the same! Yes this is sacrilegious and you don't see World Youth Day Masses are as well!
August 11, 2013 at 7:07 am
@John Fisher: World Youth Day? Is that what it's called? I always assumed it was called Catholic Woodstock. I think I'd rather go to real Woodstock. Watching Pete Townshend kick the interloping Abbie Hoffman offstage would give me more confidence in humanity than a bunch of bishops dancing like prepubescent Beliebers. At least the former was behaving in a way that a man his age would be expected to act in that situation. Can't say the same for the Backstreet Bishops.
August 11, 2013 at 7:29 am
Yes Mowery well said! In the Middles Ages there were abuses like buying and selling bishoprics, paying money to be made cardinal. Clergy living in concubinage. Selling the sacraments. It was fashion and sacrilegious. Now because of fashion we Catholics see our bishops and priests behave in sacrilegious ways, no doubt to feel like they are loved. There is a herd mentality like lemming running towards a cliff. I do not agree with abortionists (probably baptised Catholics themselves) gate crashing Mass. They are however doing nothing more than our clown Masses ever did. Woodstock was at least authentic when it can to its purpose. The Woodstock generation have a lot to answer for when they turn the Catholic Church into Woodstock and Woodstock the Church!
August 11, 2013 at 2:43 pm
Now is the time for serious ushers/bouncers in Catholic churches. Seriously.
August 11, 2013 at 6:41 pm
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August 11, 2013 at 7:08 pm
@Mowery: I was being very obviously sarcastic. Hence why I phrased it so over the top. As it happens I am actually something of an amateur expert on Christian military ethics and the history of what is (somewhat over-generally) called "Just War" theory.
And just FYI, I think you're confusing St. Albert the Great, a Dominican monk who tutored Aquinas, with Alfred the Great, who drove the Vikings out. He was never a saint—he was a good king, but not of the heroic holiness necessary for canonization. The only English King who was ever a saint, to my knowledge, was Edward the Confessor.
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August 12, 2013 at 6:04 pm
@ Sophia's Favorite: My mistake. Unfortunately, sarcasm doesn't come across very well on the internet. Also, I have run across Catholics (like Ron) who would spout the same line with complete seriousness, so I simply took it at face value and assumed that the two of you were in agreement. On a side note, I'm giving 10 to 1 odds that Ron comes back and claims he was being sarcastic too. Any takers? Lol.
Also, thanks for the FYI, but, I wasn't confused. St Alfred the Great belongs to the realm of pre-congregation canonizations. You can read more about him here: http://saints.sqpn.com/saint-alfred-the-great/