Don’t do it.
I am serious, don’t do it.
I have nothing against Rand Paul, other than his wacko Dad named him after a utilitarian dipstick, but this news scares me.
Mitt Romney had a lengthy sit down with Rand Paul, son of Professor Boing Boing.
Now Rand Paul seems like a sorta sane individual and no son should have to denounce his wacky father (other than Charlie Sheen, Colin Hanks, any of the offspring of Alec Baldwin.)
Note to Mitt. Ron Paul supporters are not conservatives. They are not the droids you are looking for.
Sources close to Senator Rand Paul tell National Review Online that Paul and Mitt Romney had a private meeting on Wednesday. Details of the topics discussed are hazy, but Paul β the son of Texas congressman (and presidential candidate) Ron Paul β reportedly found the meeting productive.
Ron Paul people are not the tea party and they are not the people you should be courting. I have nothing against Rand Paul, other than his experience and parentage make him the worst possible VP candidate imaginable.
Don’t do it!!!
May 25, 2012 at 5:32 am
First, his name is Randal. He isn't named after that lame author. In fact, he went by Randy as a kid.
Second, he's much better than his father, but I think you already knew that. π
Lastly, I don't think this is about the veep spot. It may have more to do with the delegates his father is amassing, especially in caucus states. Paul supporters are quite involved and die hard. Romney, not so much. Paul supporters show up and get elected into delegate spots.
May 25, 2012 at 9:11 am
Well, this is the last time I ever visited this blog.
May 25, 2012 at 10:33 am
Better than Ron Paul? Yeah, who wants honesty consistency, genuine love for his fellow man, willingness to work with people and trade with them instead of bombing them into oblivion (pro-life), no crony corporate backers, not bought off by unions, never took a junket, returns part of his congressional office budget every year, receives more donations from active military than any other politician, ….what's the use. You judge the fruit and pick Romney, Barrabas and insult Dr Paul. You are a RINO or are completely clueless about conservatism and limited government.
May 25, 2012 at 2:14 pm
I am a conservative, and I voted for Ron Paul in the last two Republican presidential primaries. I would happily vote for Rand Paul too, given the chance.
Now, I do agree that Rand Paul may not be the best VP pick with voters in general, but *I* certainly would like the pick.
May 25, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Just so i understand…..boo abortion = totality of catholic moral teaching. So, right view on abortion + liberal ideas on fiscal policy + empiric foreign policy = conservative. While boo abortion, boo torture + conservative fiscal policy + non interference foreign policy + an actual conception of federalism = faux conservative. Now thats interesting accounting. So conservatism is hawkish on war with no solid conception of federalism, now with torture. Umm no thanks. Now who's the statist?
May 25, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Every time you talk about Ron Paul, you prove you are just refusing to pay attention. He can't make the nice little sound bites you are accustomed to, but eventually, if you really are any sort of good Catholic, you ought to develop some humility- at least the epistemological kind- to figure out what he's talking about.
The bishops are already fighting a losing battle, trying to extract from a government rights many of them happily assented for us all to lose when everything from FDRs new deal to Obamacare was framed as charity. Clearly there are lessons that need to be learned.
May 25, 2012 at 3:37 pm
You're just trolling for hits, aren't you?
Or do you really WANT to be dragged into explaining that kicking the humanity of the unborn down to state level isn't all that Catholic? (I use to be an RP fan on pro-life issues. Nothing like the supposed idealist supporting a solution that abandons the unborn and mimics the problem that nearly tore the nation apart once!)
May 25, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Oh, third option:
you refuse to be intimidated by the flood of Ronulans who spend their time searching for comments about their idol, so they can cut-and-paste simicoherent responses.
May 25, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Pat,
Knock it off with the name calling and the backhanded compliments.
I actually agree with pretty much everything you said but, to me, you lose the argument when you start behaving the same way I see people behave who are against the Church's fight against the HHS mandate. Can't use logic? Start name calling. Have no information to back you up? Make fun of, or actively denounce, your opponents wacky beliefs.
Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.
May 25, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Wait, someone's parentage makes them a bad candidate? How American.
I generally like reading this bloc but I cannt stand your little obsession with hating on Ron Paul. The kind of people who don't support him are just big-government big-spending "conservatives," and aren't any better than big government liberals like Obama.
May 25, 2012 at 4:38 pm
You keep denegrating Ron Paul but I have yet to see any postings on your blog actually logically arguing against his beliefs of what our government should and shouldn't be doing. Have either of you ever seriously listened to what he has been saying and given it any thought or research? My guess is not. You are probably too busy trying to find ways to support Romney who holds fundraisers with pro-aborts and supports homosexuals who want to adopt.
May 25, 2012 at 5:05 pm
@ August: "when everything from FDRs new deal to Obamacare was framed as charity" Charity is a virtue voluntarily practiced, the absolute domain of the Church. Non-voluntary charity is tryanny, extortion, imposition and establishemnt of religion against the Freedom in the First Amendment. Obamacare is the establishment of secular humanism as a religion and Obama as the high priest. God created and owns Caesar, unless you do not know how to read, God still created Caesar through the sovereign personhood of man, man who constitutes Caesar does not care to be overruled by his invention.
May 25, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Pat,
Who pissed in your Wheaties this morning?
Completely gratuitious.
C'mon, you can do better than this…
JOB
May 25, 2012 at 5:33 pm
"x said…
Well, this is the last time I ever visited this blog."
Ditto I'm afraid. You are now officially deleted from my rss reader. Patrick if you cannot comprehend how libertarian thought pertaining to social and economic ideas are perfectly compatible with Catholicism I recommend reading Tom Woods.
May 25, 2012 at 6:04 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNDsyKnQIes&feature=youtu.be
I am not a troll, I am a long time reader. I really hope you will watch the above video, and I would be absolutely thrilled if you would offer your thoughts. Mitt Romney does NOT have a pro-life record. We want to say he had a "conversion" because he now claims agreement with our position. But the fact is, good ol' Mitt changed his mind on the abortion issue. What's to prevent him from flip flopping again?
May 25, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Or do you really WANT to be dragged into explaining that kicking the humanity of the unborn down to state level isn't all that Catholic?
NO question it is not Catholic. But it is arguably Constitutional, that little ol' document federal officials take an oath to uphold and defend. Just ask that super-libertarian Catholic on the SCOTUS, oh, what's his name, rhymes with Balia.
Most alleged coservatives are nothing more than right liberals.
May 25, 2012 at 6:20 pm
There's no shortage of contrarians on here, but I'll add my voice. My wife and I both voted for Ron Paul in the primary, though we'll vote for Romney in the general.
Ron Paul was pulling 20% of the GOP electorate in a lot of places. It's time people stop denigrating people that are for the Constitution and against Wilsonian war-mongering as somehow not Conservatives. Or weirdos that live in their parents' basements. I attend a diocesan traditional Mass, and there were a lot of us in the basement coffee voting for Paul. Even a member of his finance team is a parishioner at a TLM.
The rah-rah over the top jingoism that has attached itself to a large portion of the Conservative movement over the last 20 years is neither Conservative nor Catholic. America is not the messiah.
May 25, 2012 at 7:04 pm
NO question it is not Catholic. But it is arguably Constitutional, that little ol' document federal officials take an oath to uphold and defend.
Yeah, the constitution says nothing about it being illegal to deprive someone of life without due process….
May 25, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Foxfier– Other murders are not prohibited by the Constitution either. Other murder is handled by state law. Rape is also not handled by Federal law, unless it crosses borders or its victim is a federal employee. Being a state matter doesn't mean we think it is less important, it just means the constitution leaves it there because it is not given to the federal government in the Constitution. Child abuse, drug abuse, and all kinds of other crimes are left in the hands of the state as well. Should we pass a Constitutional amendment protecting the unborn? I think so, but there is 0% chance of that happening in our lifetimes.
May 25, 2012 at 7:16 pm
The Constitution is about what government may do, not about what people may do to each other. That is handled by statute or state law.