Tolerance. Shmolerance. For years, liberals have been pleading with us obnoxious right wing fanatics to just stop with the politics of personal destruction. They pleaded for us just to get along? They questioned why we couldn’t just be tolerant of people different than us.
Even in their efforts to legalize gay marriage, the whole debate hasn’t been about marriage at all. It’s all been exactly where they want it to be. It’s about how us mean old nasty conservatives can be so hateful as to demonize a group just because they’re not exactly like us.
But they realized something. Attacking traditional marriage supporters head on wasn’t a pathway to success. There were too many of us. So now they’re trying a new tactic. Divide and conquer.
Gay advocates have decided that the best way to get gay marriage legalized in many states is to demonize some of their opponents so as to split us up. That’s right, gay advocacy groups are taking out ads in newspapers screaming, “The Mormons are Coming. The Mormons are Coming.”
The Washinton Post reports:
With the battle moving east, some advocates are shouting that fact in the streets, calculating that on an issue that eventually comes down to comfort levels, more people harbor apprehensions about Mormons than about homosexuality.
“The Mormons are coming! The Mormons are coming!” warned ads placed on newspaper Web sites in three Eastern states last month. The ad was rejected by sites in three other states, including Maine, where the Kennebec Journal informed Californians Against Hate that the copy “borders on insulting and denigrating a whole set of people based on their religion.”
“I’m not intending it to harm the religion. I think they do wonderful things. Nicest people,” said Fred Karger, a former Republican campaign consultant who established Californians Against Hate. “My single goal is to get them out of the same-sex marriage business and back to helping hurricane victims.”
The strategy carries risks for a movement grounded in the concept of tolerance. But the demographics tempt proponents of same-sex marriage: Mormons account for just 2 percent of the U.S. population, and they are scarce outside the West. Nearly eight in 10 Americans personally know or work with a gay person, according to a recent Newsweek survey. Only 48 percent, meanwhile, know a Mormon, according to a Pew Research Center poll.
So, it turns out they’re actually cool with demonizing their opponents. Huh, who knew? Look, if they want to play it out there on equal ground I’m all for it. Let’s put up Mitt Romney and Glenn Beck vs. RuPaul and Perez Hilton and see who Americans relate to better. But we’re not allowed to play that game. That’s the funny thing. Everyone I know who’s against gay marriage essentially starts out their argument by saying, “I’m not anti-gay” or “I have several gay friends” and then proceeds to explain why traditional marriage is a benefit to society…etc…
Traditional marriage supporters are like Star Trek fans who have to say that they like Star Trek but it’s not like they were the pointy ears to conventions or anything. Well, in this analogy, the Mormons wear pointy ears.
So much of this comes down to people want to be cool. And much of society doesn’t want to be seen with the pointy eared people. They’d rather go along with the cultural tides. So my bet on the future is that this strategy will probably work.
So I’m thinking that within five years we’ll have House Subcommittee on Mormon Activities and they’ll be dragging people in who said something against gay marriage for questioning. Congressman Perez Hilton will ask questions like, “Are you or have you ever been a member of the Mormon cult?”
And Carrie Prejean will say that on advice of her lawyer she’s not going to answer that question. And she’ll be escorted back to her prison cell.
May 29, 2009 at 11:03 pm
Don’t hypocritically pretend you don’t demonize your opponents either. According to your previous thread, the vast majority of homosexuals are rampantly promiscuous desease-carryng monsters. You really don’t play the martyr well at all. As for homos against morbots; a pox on both their houses. Let them tear each other apart politically and socially. We don’t need either of them.
May 29, 2009 at 11:17 pm
It is despicable how the same-sex marriage activists attack Mormons and play on prejudices against them. If they really want to attack the Church which is the strongest opponent of gay marriage they should attack the Church. While they have been insulting Catholics they won’t do it to the same extent as Mormons? Whey? They know they can’t win in a fight with the Catholic Church. No one has ever picked a fight with the Church of our Lord and lived to tell about it.
It is the height of black irony that the so-called purveyors of tolerance and opponents of hate are advancing their cause by piling up on a hated and despised minority.
May 29, 2009 at 11:24 pm
And if the US had let the Nazis and Soviets battle it out to the death, we would not have had to worry about Nuclear War with the Ruskies for 50 years.
Let the world see how slimey and evil both groups are. No need for the church to dirty its hands here.
May 29, 2009 at 11:32 pm
“My single goal is to get them out of the same-sex marriage business and back to helping hurricane victims.”
…so basically it would be really nice if religious people would just be social workers and stop talking about morals.
May 30, 2009 at 12:25 am
“Let the world see how slimey and evil both groups are.”
You’ve got to be kidding.
I’ve known a fair amount of Mormons who showed far better qualifications to be called followers of Christ than many Catholics.
May 30, 2009 at 12:56 am
And who are you to judge? Don’t followers of Christ have to believe in the trinity? That’s a pretty basic tenet of Christianity. Maybe YOU aren’t qualified to be called Christian.
May 30, 2009 at 1:00 am
“Shure Mormons believe they become gods if they have enough children, get their own planet, Jesus was a man-god and brother to Satan, St Michael was Adam and that you can baptize dead people. But they’re better christians than Catholics!”
idiot.
May 30, 2009 at 1:08 am
Must’ve hit a nerve, Dear Host.
May 30, 2009 at 1:30 am
who knew? What? Did Mitt Romney beat him up as a kid or something?
May 30, 2009 at 1:34 am
Maybe he knows my aunt…. (love her to death, but…well, when she was young, I think someone was “polite” and didn’t tell her something, and she got hurt, so now she’ll say anything she thinks is true– especially if it’s rude. She means well, but can take some getting use to…. Born Mormon.)
May 30, 2009 at 2:13 am
Subvet can correct me if I’m wrong, but I think the operative terms in the statement were “shown” and “followers.” Obviously, there are many substantial theological problems with Mormonism–such as the lack of a valid baptism,. But this does not make them–particularly on social issues–“slimey” or evil; outwardly, at least, they may appear to be much better Christians than many CINOs. You may, of course, respectfully disagree–but there’s certainly no need to resort to incendiary and childish name-calling.
May 30, 2009 at 2:14 am
Anonymous at 7:56 & 8:00, your level of vitriol proves my point. Thanks for that.
May 30, 2009 at 5:34 am
Many Mormons believe more along the lines of the Catholic faith than some Catholics. Many don’t know their beliefs, and many convert. I know quite a few former Mormons and never did they believe some of the more heretical beliefs, even though they were raised that way. Maybe we shouldn’t be to quick to judge. Just FYI- the majority of “Catholics” disagree that pre-marital sex is a sin, and they also deny a “true presence” in the Eucharist. Now tell me a Mormon who will eventually convert, isn’t more Catholic than one of the “majority.” May God bless us and help us all… we all need it!
May 30, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Rest assured: “If they can come after them (mormons), they’ll come after us (Catholics…NOT CINOs).”
May 30, 2009 at 6:10 pm
This is not a surprize. This has been the standard operating process for the current administration and the majority party for some time.
We’re only going to tax those who make over 250K…sound familiar? I watched C-Span as a Democratic Senator scrutinized a Car CEO, she wanted him to strike the budget for lawyers that were outside counsel –because that would be a way of cutting cost, and for the car exec to only use inhouse or government provided counsel. Reasonable? Perhaps, but that means those lawyers/those firms that made money by providing services to the car company in other states, in other venues, shall now be decimated –but that’s okay because there aren’t that many of them.
Divide and conquere. Either we all hang together or we all will hang seperately. When we allow ourselves to be divided into us and them, we cease to see the them as fully authentic or human.
Those Republicans, those conservatives, those dittoheads….those Mormons, those Christians…we’d best learn the linguisic landscape and know who our friends are, if we would defeat the enemies we have.
May 30, 2009 at 6:20 pm
SherryTex-
you triggered a notion-
Kind of like how there’s a big to-do at the moment about social conservatives vs fiscal conservatives vs best-govt-governs-least conservatives, like there isn’t a huge overlap among those? Like they don’t end up having similar goals?
June 1, 2009 at 3:06 pm
So my bet on the future is that this strategy will probably work.Of course it will work. This war is over, and we lost. We lost. We lost because we lost the culture first.
So let us all stop wringing our hands wondering how bad it’s going to get. It is going to get as bad as possible.
Our duty will be to remain faithful in the face of persecution. This persecution will range from “mild” — that is, being cut dead from former friends and family — to “harsh”. I don’t think the harsh stuff will show up for a few years yet, but I am telling you right now, and from personal experience, that it is becoming harder and harder to stand up to gay marriage.
Let us all pray for courage and steadfastness. This prayer should be serious and sustained. We are going to need strength.
July 7, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Mormons are heretic cult. More information behind the good article:
http://koti.phnet.fi/elohim/Mormons