So beatings are now a form of contraception?
Get this, according to the Salt Lake Tribune:
A judge has released a 17-year-old Vernal girl from jail after ruling she did not commit a crime when she allegedly paid a man to beat her in an attempt to end her late-term pregnancy…Eighth District Juvenile Court Judge Larry Steele sided with attorney Rich King, who argued under Utah law and around the country women are not held criminally liable for soliciting an abortion. “Women may use any procedure or method of terminating pregnancy, by abortion or by miscarriage, and they cannot be charged with a crime,” King said.
Judge Steele called the girl’s actions to end her seven-month pregnancy “shocking and crude” in a four-page ruling Thursday, but said her actions “fit the definition for an abortion. As such, she cannot be held criminally liable for her actions pursuant to the Utah abortion statutes.”
Steele said a law protecting women who seek abortions from prosecution does not include the word “medical” when referring to procedures used to abort a fetus so it’s ok to hire a local thug to beat your unborn baby to death.
You want to know the worst part. The judge has a point even if he doesn’t know it. People are going to be all outraged over this (as they should be) but look at what we’re really arguing about. The method of killing. That’s it.
I don’t think the baby really cares if it’s killed by a man with a stethoscope in a white coat or a thug with slicked back hair wearing a wife beater. Who cares if the baby’s killer is a member of the AMA or the local Rugby team?
The argument over whether we should burning babies to death in the womb or beat them to death is not one, I think, is worth having. Both, to me, seem equally brutal. And to the baby as well, I’m sure.
If former boxers need work, who are we to stand in their way? If they can do the job cheaper, the government should let them, right? Hey, Obama’s been looking for a way to lessen the cost of healthcare so this would seem to help.
In fact, the people I think should be most offended by this are abortionists who will be offended because the man only charged $150 to kill the baby. He’s undercutting them. And they can’t have that.
And here comes the coup de grace. It’s a good news/bad news thing. Ready? The good news is that the baby in this case actually survived the beating and lived. The bad news is that the baby’s mother is now fighting for custody of the child. Come on. You expected otherwise?
October 13, 2009 at 7:00 pm
Wow, this is barbaric at every turn. It is so sad to think human beings can commit such atrocities and it is all protected by law.
October 13, 2009 at 7:16 pm
You know how this will be spun, of course. They will say that this is what will happen if you outlaw abortion. This is the proverbial back alley abortion, albeit without the use of a coat hanger.
See, it's so much better if the killer is wearing that lab coat. Don't you understand?
October 13, 2009 at 7:23 pm
What kind of man would do such a thing? Seriously, accept money to punch a pregnant woman in the womb? Really? I just can't imagine that. I wonder if the baby survived because the man couldn't bring himself to hit her full-strength.
And as for custody, I just can't fathom it. I mean, chutzpah just doesn't begin to describe that attitude.
October 13, 2009 at 7:51 pm
It sounds like the girl needs major psychological help. I mean, she paid someone to beat her up? There HAS to be more going on here.. she should have been sentenced to some sort of counseling.
Of course, I'd argue that most of the people who go for abortions ALSO have other problems (depression/history of abuse/etc.) and need counseling……
But seriously– the kid was 17. WHERE WERE HER PARENTS????????
October 13, 2009 at 7:54 pm
Okay, troll,
Go back to your cave before this post is removed in say, 5 minutes.
Oh, and by the way, Vernal Utah is 92% Caucasian, 4% Hispanic, 3% American Indian.
October 13, 2009 at 7:55 pm
While I was typing that… Thanks Matthew/Patrick…
October 13, 2009 at 8:19 pm
I guess that's the soap opera or the spin – oh pity the poor girl who had herself beaten up. It's better then to have a safe & legal & (rare) termination procedure. It is more civilized. Sound peachy except for one detail – the unborn person who's going to be torn apart, sliced & diced, chemically melted, vacuumed or fished out with a hanger or in this case beaten up. People just erase the baby out of the picture and the government is so supportive of this. I wonder how much the abortion industry contributed to the campaigns of the pro-aborts. That would be interesting to find out.
October 13, 2009 at 9:06 pm
I can't even fathom how a woman could do this and still be considered sane. In a sane world, this girl would have been confined to a mental institution pending her birth and her child offered up for adoption or foster care until she was mentally fit to raise it.
Prayers are needed for this deeply disturbed young woman. Something is gravely wrong here in her life if she A. had no parents (let alone the father!) to support her decision to keep her child, B. would put herself through physical trauma to rid herself of her child and C. would actually know where to go to "rent-a-thug" for the job. If her parents were supportive, she'd have no reason to kill the child (after 6mos of my own pregnancy, it's safe to say I'm bonded to the little guy and can't wait to meet him). She would have felt secure enough to allow herself to attach to the baby and therefore would not subject herself or it to harm.
Sigh. Another sad, sad story.
So, where's the chump who put her in this condition? Anyone got a baseball bat handy? I'm surprised she rented the thug for her baby… I would have been after the dead beat dad!
October 13, 2009 at 9:08 pm
I'd think that any teenage girl who is so messed up that she's considering killing her child needs our help and sympathy.
17 year olds aren't particularly responsible. We don't let them drink or vote. They NEED parents.
Yes, some kids are going to get pregnant no matter what. But the ones with good supportive loving parents come through it OK. They have the babies and raise them or give them up for adoption.
This girl's desperation is a sign something was VERY WRONG in other parts of her life. If it was your daughter, wouldn't you want her to come to you when she found out she was pregnant, instead of trying to 'take care of things' on her own?? I know I would. I'd be upset, I might ground her for life, but I'd also want to help her through the pregnancy and birth and child-rearing…
October 13, 2009 at 9:25 pm
I agree that the girl needs help too.
Speaking of the ugliest thing, the 71% project (as 71% opposed tax funded abortions) needs our mug shots.
Cfr. http://www.prolifeunity.com/index.php/iam71percent/comment/upload
October 13, 2009 at 10:44 pm
This is Mormon culture at its finest: they are the masters of rationalization. The Mormon church allows for abortions in the case of rape/incest or harm to the mother. But in the case of this girl, none of these would have applied. So, being the "good Mormon girl" she was, she decided to let "nature" help her out.
I'd wager a guess that the girl's family WANTED the baby and begrudgingly accepted the situation. It sounds like from the brief that it was the girl who made this decision so as not to lose her boyfriend.
Diedre – to answer your question, the court ruled in the girls favor, meaning it cannot impose any sentence on her. She was found not guilty. Therefore, they cannot mandate counseling as it would be "punishment". The only thing they could do would be to have her family intervene and schedule a competency hearing since she is a minor which might result in imposed counseling.
Either way, this is a horrible horrible situation.
October 14, 2009 at 1:04 pm
This is the ugliest thing I read today. The Utah legislature needs to fix the legislation pronto!
October 14, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Craig–
The legislature here is gearing up to do just that. I also suspect that Judge Steele have a hard time next election.
October 14, 2009 at 3:30 pm
She wants custody? Why? So she can finish the job?
October 14, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Disgusting. I can't believe she's trying to get custody.
October 14, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Why custody? Could be a change of heart or pressure coming from all the publicity or people pledging support after hearing about it.
October 14, 2009 at 8:33 pm
Actually, in "Dispelling the Myths of Abortion History" by J. Dellapenna, chapter 1, he outlines the ancient forms of abortion. The "earliest techniques to appear in the common law records" were "injury techniques" including beating. (p. 32)
Nothing new here. Woman empowerment my toe.
On my blog, I once got a hit from a search for "abortion woman empowerment lie". Abortion is a method to keep the poor/minority population in check for the rich and powerful of the world with the MSM as a propaganda machine (read Rockefell''er, Gate:s, Somo::s, San&&ger etc.). (see maafa21 video)
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