There isn’t a problem in the world that liberal don’t think they can’t fix with free condoms. World hunger? Condoms. AIDS? Condoms. Skyrocketing deficit? Condoms.
Now, to be honest I’m not even sure what problem this school district thinks its solving here but a school district in New England will be handing out condoms to little children upon request and is telling teachers to ignore parents who don’t want their children to receive free condoms. Because, you know the teachers know better what’s good for your kids, not parents.
Too many public schools have completely lost interest in actually teaching kids (if they ever had interest) and now consider themselves first and foremost social engineers.
Right Wings News is reporting:
These days public schools don’t pay much attention to the tired old topics of yesteryear — reading, writing, arithmetic, etc. Now the emphasis is on learning fun stuff, like sexual intercourse and disregarding the wishes of parents:
New England school district has approved a measure that will provide free condoms to elementary school students and direct teachers not to comply with parental wishes to the contrary.
The policy, unanimously approved by the Provincetown School Committee does not include an age limit — meaning children of any age ask for — and receive — free condoms.
The committee also directed school leaders not to honor requests from any parent who might object to their child receiving condoms. In other words mommy and daddy — you don’t have a right to prevent your 7-year-old from getting a contraceptive device.
This world has gone mad. When will adults start acting like adults again?
The funny part is that some members of the school board were outraged by this new rule but not for the reason you might think. They were upset that the children had to ask for the condoms and that they weren’t being handed out to everyone.
Check out Right Wing News for more.
June 21, 2010 at 8:43 pm
I assume that the school board is still elected in those parts.
Those bums must be thrown out, or the parents have no one
to blame but themselves for such highhanded lunacy. It also
wouldn't hurt to refuse to pass any school bonds until the
board mends its ways.
In a democracy, sadly, we get the government we deserve. But
the children in this school district have done nothing to deserve
this.
June 21, 2010 at 9:09 pm
Unfortunately, Provincetown, MA is Gay-on-the-Mass-Bay. Given that MA is one of those farblondjet (look it up) states where gays can marry, care to take a guess how the "parents" in town feel? I'm sure the straight parents (if any are left and their moral sense hasn't been totally poisoned by the spiritually toxic atmpsphere there) are outvoted and stuck until the housing market clears and they can flee.
Pray for the children (and for the adults who are busy stocking up on millstones)…
June 21, 2010 at 9:16 pm
This is ludicrous! Are condoms supposed to be the answer to all our problems nowadays? The school board should be fired. We need to stop these kinds of people from indoctrinating our kids with immorality.
June 21, 2010 at 9:23 pm
Hopefully, the new Congress will enact laws that will provide vouchers to provide more educational choices to parents. Because even if we have our kids opt out of such programs, the school environment is crazy with fornication. Is this the kind of nation that the Democrats want America to become – just fixated on carnal pleasures and later quick fixes like abortion or infanticide? There are no limits to the evil that these people are ready to push America and that makes me suspect that there is something more insidious about them. We better vote all these Democrats out before they corrupt the last visages of decency in this country.
June 21, 2010 at 9:35 pm
I say to all Christian parents, it's high time Mommy left her full time career and returned home where she can properly care for her children. Even the Catholic schools are Catholic anymore. Take the education of your children seriously. Educate them at home, where they belong, then you don't have to worry about the immoral people indoctrinating your children. Daddy's–man up. Insist your wife stay home. Sell the boat, the jet ski, and the season tickets. Don't cast your pearls to the swine!!!!!
June 21, 2010 at 9:56 pm
Whoa there, Anon at 4:35!
Not every dad has a boat, jet ski etc. to sell. Some of us don't own a big screen TV or, in fact, anything worth more than a week's worth of groceries.
Some of us work INSANE, even CRIPPLING hours at the highest paying jobs will will ever be hired for while our wives ALSO work, and we can still barely feed the kids.
I'd love nothing more than for my wife to be able to stay at home and help raise our children, but not only is she not qualified to home school them (not everyone is), her income is a critical supplement to mine and, without it, we would be homeless. Heck, we nearly are already.
I don't think you meant to sound insensitive there, but not everyone can afford to forgo years of a significant portion of their family income.
I consider it to be a part of the evil of this society, but it is not one that everyone has control over.
And, btw, please don't say that we could live more modestly, or in a cheaper part of the country, etc. that, too, would be presumptuous.
June 21, 2010 at 10:10 pm
I don't mind free condoms given out at school. Not one bit! As long as they were these condoms:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/africa/06/20/south.africa.female.condom/index.html?iref=mpstoryview
June 21, 2010 at 11:27 pm
So, the tally for the last few weeks has been: condoms, yes, fetal dolls, no. I realize there are different schools involved here, etc, however it's amazing to me that we can teach children ALL about sex, but not about the fruit of such acts. Or, that abortion kills that fruit.
I agree that those that can homeschool, really should. And, those that enroll their children in schools (public or private) work, to the best of their ability, to advocate morality in those schools. Either way, we, as parents, have a war to fight.
June 21, 2010 at 11:46 pm
Fire the school board? Why yes — at the next school board election. You DO vote, don't you?
— Mack
June 22, 2010 at 4:03 am
First of all I'd like to say to all those who reflexively spout out "Homeschooling is the answer!" or "Catholic schools are the answer", this isn't necessarily true. As the gentleman above points out, everybody can't home school for economic or other reasons. Catholic schools, for the most part, are LOST, but don't get me started there.
Provincetown, Massachusettes is likely the densest homosexual stronghold on the East Coast. I'm sure most of the parents are homosexual or lesbian partners. The poor Catholic Portugese-heritage fishermen and their families who once lived there probably don't anymore.
June 22, 2010 at 6:44 am
I feel sorry for the responsible parents within that school district,
trapped with a population gone mad.
June 22, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Anonymous at 4:56.
What your wife or you don't have a GED or HS diploma? In most states that's all a parent needs to teach their children. What, you don't make 35K a year after working insane hours? I hear all these excuses all the time and that is what they are, excuses. Is it easy to raise a family on less than 35K a year? NO. Does it mean no cell phones, satellite, 2 car payments, no credit cards. For most yes. The government run school system is a nightmare. NONE and I say NONE of them are properly educating children. After 4th grade we have the WORST government funded school system in the entire civilized world. Most people really do believe they must have 2 incomes to survive, but once they actually look at it, they realize the farce and evil of it all. Over the years, I have found very, very, few people who are really willing to examine it. Unless you and your wife are making less than 20K each, I don't believe you. Fact: any Christian who has their children in government funded schools should really take a good hard long look at it. Catholic schools are no better. You just might be one of the lucky ones who has a *great* school district, but highly unlikely. Aside from the sexual immorality, there is the general holding back of children who excel in math and science (they can't leave the other kids behind, ya know), the constant bullying and harassment by students and faculty, the peer pressure, the general attitude of "your-only-my-parents-what-do-you-know?", the push for dating rituals, the teachers unions protecting their jobs and not looking out for the best interest of the children, the constant exposure to teachers who are on their 2nd, 3rd, or 4th marriage, the constant ridicule about Catholic religious beliefs (i.e. St Patrick DID NOT run the snakes out of Ireland–that is make believe), the discouragement of children thinking for themselves, etc. I could go on and on. Don't take it personally, but if you have children in public school YOU should get defensive. Take a really good look and ask yourself if YOU would tolerate it in your daily life. If you wouldn't tolerate the harassment, bullying, ridicule, and criticism, why in the name of Our Lord Jesus Christ would you FORCE your children to do it?
June 22, 2010 at 2:43 pm
"I consider it to be a part of the evil of this society, but it is not one that everyone has control over."
Sorry, I just have to comment individually about this statement you made Anon. EVERYONE with the graces our Lord gives us has control over evil. Yes, I am being presumptuous, but you have either been poorly catechized or have bought modernism, hook, line, and sinker. Your attitude is precisely why the Catholic church is rotting from the inside out. Your attitude is precisely why men and women are abandoning their children at an ENORMOUS rate and throwing them to the vultures for the culture to raise. Your attitude is precisely why we live in a culture of death. You are WRONG!!!! We do NOT have to tolerate such evil. Is that what you really think our Lord told us? Let's see. Um NO! We are to CONFRONT EVIL, crush his ugly venom spewing head. How do we do it? With Mary, Our Blessed Mother of course and the graces Our Lord gives us. 1) We have a MORAL OBLIGATION to worship the true God in the Catholic Church. Worshipping outside the Catholic Church and marrying outside the Catholic Church are moral evils that CAN and MUST be avoided. Period. 2) The propogation of moral error in any form, by willful participation, encouragement, or silence is a serious moral EVIL. It can ONLY be tolerated when not doing so would directly CAUSE a greater evil. If this is not the case, then evil should be PREVENTED. In other words, it should be halted, addressed, and exorcised from individuals, families, and society in general. Since you specifically use this quote to address the Dual-income-Mom-works-outside-the-home situation, I will address it as well. It's evil, it's been promulgated as a good for the society, and modern Catholics endorse it and encourage it. What does this evil cost 98% of Catholic families? Use of some form of birth control. It is common knowledge that anywhere from 95% to 98% of "Catholics" use some form of birth control. Most priests don't even address it anymore. Divorce. Women who work outside the home can and do divorce more easily than those who don't. They have insurance, a steady income, one or two children, and usually collect child support. Each YEAR, the US Catholic Churches nullifies 60,000 marriages. In 1960, that number was 300. Cohabitation. Made possible because women are encouraged to be independent and have careers. In 1999, the USCCB reported that over half of the couples presenting for marriage were cohabiting. Day care. Today, 75% of mothers with children work full time outside the home. These children are in some form of day care environment. Huge portions of family income go to pay for this cost. Period. 60% of these mothers have children under 2. (US Census data). Every year, report after report after report comes out regarding daycare's impact on the children. While they may be able to read, they are consistently more aggressive, more insecure, more demanding, more noncompliant REGARDLESS of the parents socio-economic status, type of child-care environment, or how sweet and competent mother is when she is at home. These children have weak social skills and low levels of cooperation. We won't even mention the risks of physical and sexual abuse among children in these environments. Where is the Catholic Church on these evils? Silent. If mom stays home the family might have to move, get help from family, use food stamps or medicaid, carpool, shop thrift stores, grow a garden, eliminate electronic luxuries. Oh, wait, I almost forgot. In modern America, poverty is sinful and evil. It must be avoided at all costs. Oh yeah and people who are poor have no incentives or ways to improve their lives by starting their own businesses or going back to school because, well, they are poor. So, in your words, the modern dual income family is just another evil we must accept. May God have mercy. Blessed Mother, please pray for us and hold us safely in your Immaculate Heart.
June 22, 2010 at 3:18 pm
I just want to comment on one point of your above statement, because I don't have the time to intelligently address your entire rant, due to the face that I have homework to do so that I can work in Public Schools as a Catholic example to my students. When I worked full time – I used NFP. Now that I am in school full time – I use NFP. When I conceive the children God blesses my husband and I with, I will be using NFP. Working does not mean abandoning church teaching on moral sexuality. So step down from the high horse.
And yes, as a Catholic woman who considers every teaching of the church important, I plan to work full time in the Public School system because a lot of those children need love and care that they do not get at home. They need to know it is possible to make good choices and do good with their lives. And who is going to do it if I don't? Christ did not stay home with the disciples and talk about how terrible everyone else is. Just saying.
June 22, 2010 at 3:31 pm
In your home schooling, do you teach the kids about things like paragraph breaks, anonymous? It's also a tad sanctimonious to dictate to people how they should live in order to home school.
June 22, 2010 at 3:46 pm
The raising of my children is MY responsibility, for which I will be called to account by the Almighty. I and nobody else will stand before His throne to answer for that and many other things.
Therefore, I don't need some secularist anti-Catholic boob with a teaching certificate found in a governmental Cracker Jack box to attempt superseding my authority.
Nor do I need some sanctimonious, holier-than-thou "Catholic" to preach on the pitfalls of my choices for those children.
My responsibilty, my duty. To be fulfilled as best I and my wife see how. No outsider's unasked for opinion is either desired or required.
June 22, 2010 at 3:53 pm
Catholic and Employed.
Good for you. You confirmed exactly what I stated above. 98% of Catholics use some form of birth control and they must for Mom to work outside the home. Mom's career can be applauded on so many levels because of "all the good she is doing" for the family and the community.
NFP: the practice of deliberately restricting the marital act exclusively to those times when the wife in infertile so as to avoid the conception of a child. Precisely the definition of other forms of birth control. Only difference: one uses a natural method, others use barriers or chemicals. Still birth control. CONDEMNED for use by Catholics until after VII. Avoiding pregnancy was ONLY acceptable under GRAVE circumstances. Doubt very seriously that ANY woman or family experiences GRAVE circumstances these days. Most Catholics that use NFP do so only to relieve their consciences because they are taught, IN ERROR, that doing so is morally neutral. I know, because I was just told so about 3 months ago by a "conservative" priest. Hm. You plan to support the government run school system, work there, so you can give other children what they should be getting at home. How noble of you. What about your own children? Wouldn't it serve a better good to your own family for you to use your hard earned education to educate your own. I bet you can't express your Catholic religious beliefs to your classroom, not without the school system concerned about law suits and such. So how do you teach your students about real love–the love of God in heaven? You can't. In a public school, and you certainly must know it, you cannot fully share your Catholic identity and Catholic faith with your students. No, C & E, Christ said "Give not that which is holy to dogs; neither cast ye pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet; and turning upon you, they tear you." Just saying.
June 22, 2010 at 4:12 pm
I'm not even attempting how to tell average people how to live their lives. But people who come here identify themselves as Catholics. As a Catholic, I have a duty to other Catholics to inform them of error. As do you. Our silence on these issues for fear of attempting to "dictate" to other Catholics how to live has caused great decay among Catholics. Modern Catholics, for the most part, don't even know what is wrong. They just stand up and say, for example, "Stop killing babies." But how many Catholics, the ones who post here included, are standing up and proclaiming that our birth control mentality has led to this evil in the first place? Not many. We are sitting by and watching as good Catholics, who mean well and try their best, are falling off the cliffs! You can call me sanctimonious all you want. I have examined my own life and found it deeply lacking. At one point or another I have claimed and held valid each and every point that you each are making. I have very, very good wonderful Catholic friends who did everything "right." They go to Mass on Sunday, sent their children to Catholic schools, (Mom works to make that happen), live as best they can etc. They recently lamented that their children have lost their faith and they don't "get it". They did everything "they were supposed to do." They have one son who married outside the Church and hasn't been to Mass in several years. They have a daughter who lives with her boyfriend–they only hope she is "at least" using NFP like they taught her. They have another son who just graduated from HS and they are really sure about him yet and another child still at home. They are good Catholics but led astray. From what I see, that is the norm. I hear it from the people who post here. Many, as conservative as they are, don't have a clue. When other Catholics try to point out some error, they are accused of being uncharitable or sanctimonious. They are warned to stay out of other people's business. Why? Because modern Catholics don't want to be told what to do. They don't want anyone–not a secularist, nor a Catholic–trying to influence their decisions, regardless of how those decisions have been formed. Accuse me of what you will. But I actually do believe that Catholics should step up to the plate, make the sacrifices necessary, and with that, could turn the whole society around. We are going to do it by working at the soup kitchens and sending money to clean up the oil spill. We can only do it by living authentic Catholic lives.
June 22, 2010 at 4:25 pm
Anon 11:12 AM – you sound like a guy I work with. And yeah, he's pretty much a jerk, too.
You don't even know C & E, and yet you're condemning her for using NFP. You know nothing of her circumstances, nothing of her husband's circumstances, no way of knowing their reasons for delaying having children – and yet they have no GRAVE reason to not have a child. Who made you judge of everybody?
When other Catholics try to point out some error, they are accused of being uncharitable or sanctimonious.
There are charitable and non-sanctimonious ways of pointing out someone's error – you just don't employ them. Just saying.
June 22, 2010 at 5:01 pm
Get off your high horse, Anonymous. I don't know C&E, but whence comes your authority to declare her reasons for avoiding conception to be insufficiently grave?
My wife and I are using NFP for grave reasons….after the emergency C for #4, the emergency C for #5, and the regular C for #6, her uterus is worn out. Any further pregnancies put her and the child at extremely high risk.
We home school our six kids. We used NFP to avoid pregnancy during the first 3 years of our marriage. We used NFP to achieve pregnancy 6 times (well, 5 of the 6…#5 was God's way of getting us to continue to have children, since we probably would have stopped after #4 otherwise). On top of that, I'm currently unemployed (although have been finding enough contract work to keep us afloat, along with help from family).
So further pregnancy significantly risks her life, could leave 6 children without their mother, and my children would be unable to receive the quality education they currently enjoy. Are those grave enough reasons? Do our reasons meet your approval? Am I permitted by you to use NFP?
Don't presume to know the situation of anyone posting here…instead of attacking, counsel. Instead of presuming, ask. You seem to assume that anyone using NFP hasn't given serious consideration to God's will, and that there's virtually no chance that they have grave reason, and that they all have a contracepting mentality. Well, you have your hammer, and everything must be a nail, right? NFP=Contraception=bad.
Pointing out error is all well and good, but there's this little thing called "tact". In order to actually effect a change in another, you need to word things so that they will be received. Your methods won't work, since they cause people to raise walls instead of listen. This doesn't mean you can't speak the truth to others, just that you need to make sure you're speaking the truth in love and charity, instead of assuming the worst about others.
The issue you raised about the parents of a young woman living with her boyfriend…hopefully using NFP. Well, what can they really do (presuming the woman to be a legal adult)? Can they make her move out, or not engage in sex? Should they threaten to disown her? The best they can do is express their disapproval of her choices, make her aware of the sinful nature of her actions, and continue to love her and have a relationship with her, and take some scant solace in the fact that she's not compounding her sins with the inclusion of contraception.