The most popular men’s lifestyle website had an article this week giving instructions to men that offered advice to men on how to get a woman to procure an abortion even if she doesn’t want one.
The article in AskMen.com called Dealing with an Unwanted Pregnancy starts with:
An unplanned and unwanted pregnancy can dramatically affect an otherwise loving long-term relationship. Some men rejoice, but others simply aren’t ready to be fathers. If they discussed the possibility and specifics at the start of the relationship, he may hope she’s going to stick to the original plan and terminate the pregnancy. And she might — but for some women, getting pregnant can start clocks ticking and make them suddenly want to be mothers, despite previous agreements.
In either case, the final decision is hers, which means she has ultimate say in whether or not you become a father. This can put tremendous stress on a relationship, particularly if don’t want to have a child, but don’t want to lose the girl, either. While you can’t force her to do your bidding, you can get her to consider your wants and desires if you approach her correctly. After all, your life could be drastically altered by her decision, which certainly entitles you to speak your mind — you just need to take care with the presentation. Read on for tips on dealing with an unwanted pregnancy.
It’s written by a woman as some insider-type guide to coercing your woman to get an abortion. But all the tips are guided towards avoiding the pitfalls that might make the woman actually carry the baby to term. It talks about keeping the woman calm and using the word “we” instead of “I” but only as tools to obtain the objective which is a dead baby.
Here’s some of the lowlights:
You’ll also want to take care with your word choice; pregnant women tend to feel like they’re carrying someone, as opposed to something, even if she is just a month or so pregnant. You can’t just talk about having an abortion the same way you’d talk about having a cavity filled. Sensitivity is key. Toss words like “it” around too many times, and she’s going to start feeling like she needs to defend “it” from you.
This gem is so caring:
She needs your emotional support or she could wind up feeling isolated to the point of despair — and women in despair rarely make rational decisions
And this lovely sentiment:
If you’ve followed all of these steps and your woman decides to have the baby anyway, this does not mean you’re required to get married or move in together. You’ll probably want to provide for your child regardless, but if you’ve been clear about your intentions from the start, you are not obligated to contribute beyond what your conscience and the law expects of you. This was her decision, not yours, and the bulk of the responsibility is now hers.
Prenatal pros: Take a moment to spell this out for her when she gives you the final decision; it may just sway her over to your side.
Yes, in that last sentence the female author of the piece is promoting threatening women with abandonment unless they have an abortion.
So not only do we dehumanize the babies but also their mothers. The only thing that matters, I guess, is what “I” want when “I” want it. All others are obstacles or aids that either help or hinder the all important immediate happiness of “I.”
HT Jill Stanek
July 6, 2009 at 5:14 am
As I read this I just kept thinking of something a friend of mine's father always says regarding abortion:
"If you didn't want to go to Minneapolis, you shouldn't have got on the bus!"
July 6, 2009 at 5:24 am
Written by a woman? I am just flabbergasted. I guess this will be in her forthcoming book, "Demystifying How to Denigrate and Destroy Women, an Insiders Perspective"
July 6, 2009 at 5:26 am
Once again we see how "choice" just means "abortion."
July 6, 2009 at 6:08 am
And apparently the pro-life movement is anti-woman!
July 6, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Probably written by a woman who had multiple abortions and has no problem selling out her own.
Misery loves company.
July 6, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Just awful.
July 6, 2009 at 2:31 pm
This is the most vile article I have ever read. Mysogany at it's fullest. Here's the message: men HATE your women for being women and wanting to, God forbid, have a child. On top of hating them for having a womb and being fertile, why not just abandon them, destroying their emotional health in the process. Remind them that the worst thing a woman could ever do for herself is to have a child. And whatever you do, don't let her think for one moment that the "thing" growing inside her is another human being. Egad! May God have mercy.
July 6, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Remember…it's all about you.
July 6, 2009 at 3:29 pm
It is the deepest of ironies that so many women (mostly my own generation, 40+ and older) who continue to push the notion that abortion "helps" women.
It flies in the face of common sense on every level. And it manifests itself in articles like this one, in which a woman contorts herself into unsupportable positions to aid and abet MEN who are aiming to abandon women and children.
Tell me again how this helps women? Oh yeah. It doesn't.
Time for the return of more old-fashioned advice, such as "why should someone buy the cow when they can get the milk for free?"
July 6, 2009 at 5:19 pm
The cow/milk argument seems grossly mercenary to idealistic young women. It is better to explain the questing nature of the male, that they value what they have to strive for, that they have a desire to strive for something of value which is difficult to get, that they want to be held to high standards.
However, such men as the ones addressed in this article have already degraded themselves below the level of common humanity. Women should flee all such! Do women actually enter into sexual relationships with men who get them to agree at the start "If I get pregnant, I'll get an abortion."? Yes, sadly, they do.
These men are cads and lower than cads. I have trouble asking for God's mercy on them and their advisor, to be honest. My impulse is more along the lines of the prayer to St. Michael the Archangel …and do thou, by the power of God, cast into hell Satan and and all evil spirits who roam the world, seeking the ruin of souls."
Yes, I know they are not evil spirits, they are people, souls for whom Christ died, and they could repent and we should pray for them. But the atmosphere of sulphur is strong here.
Susan Peterson
July 6, 2009 at 5:28 pm
Disgusting, yes. But it's logically consistent from the starting premise that abortion is just a choice. If killing a child is the mother's choice and that choice affects the father, why shouldn't the father try to persuade her to choose the outcome he wants?
Evil begets evil. You start treating babies as objects and the next natural step is to treat the woman who carry them as objects. I'm just surprised they haven't come up with some way for the father to directly choose to abort babies yet. If we're passing out made up rights like the choice to kill your own children why should woman get all the rights and men none, especially when the father has no choice of whether or not to support a baby whose life is pardoned by the mother?
July 6, 2009 at 7:15 pm
Of course, the last logical piece of advice to those "men" is that a swift blow to the woman's abdomen should solve all his problems. If she really loves him, she'll stick with him after that.
Sadly, I've knoown actual cases of this.
July 6, 2009 at 10:07 pm
In my darker moments I wonder whether the author of an article like this qualifies for personhood under the Mike Treder model. In a way it would almost be a mercy if neither of them were persons – by definition they would be spared the eternal punishment of wicked souls if they had no souls at all. But I don't doubt that there IS still some fitful smoldering spark of the divine in each of them, and that's the part that has to be dug out and fanned back to life… May it be so, both for their sakes and the sakes of all of our blood pressure and to spare us all near occasions of sin.
July 6, 2009 at 11:41 pm
Disgusting but typical. Abortion has never been about CHOICE but always coercion. Just watch Maafa21 and see hwo racism and abortion mix ! http://www.maafa21.com check it out and be shocked !
July 7, 2009 at 12:17 am
Another article that takes as a premise that sex does not (or really, should not) lead to childbirth. Pregnancy is a natural, designed outcome of sex, and our unrealistic society just views it as an occasional, unwanted side effect. The writer just pushes the envelope of irresponsibility a little further.
July 7, 2009 at 2:10 am
This is serious stuff! I read this a few months ago when it was forwarded to me by the Family Research Council, and coerced abortions are a very real threat, along with the mortality rates of pregnant women by their domestic partners who "did not want the baby"
Note: this is pretty explicit some parts are very hard to read.
http://www.theunchoice.com/coerced.htm
July 7, 2009 at 2:16 am
Google "What to Expect When You're Aborting." Wow, just – wow.
July 7, 2009 at 2:22 am
On second thought – don't.
They – whomever they are – redid it since I last ran across it last year. To think this horror is being marketed toward women (as the above is aimed to men) is enough to cause any sane person to stop looking and pray. Very, very hard.
July 7, 2009 at 2:27 am
Stuff like this makes me want to scream. shout a few words that would make a sailor blush and then PRAY! When I am done praying pray again and after that a little more prayer!
July 7, 2009 at 4:47 am
Irresponsible. Manipulative. Dehumanizing. Evil.