This is painful. Maybe Noam Chomsky used to be a bright guy but here his thinking is shallow and just plain dumb. Maybe he was always like that, I don’t know. But his suppositions in this short vid are just pathetic. He says Christians defend Israel because we’re anti-semitic and we want the Jews to be wiped out or start Armageddon or something.
And just listen to the sycophantic yes man behind the camera. I lost count of how many times the weasel voiced interviewer said, “Right,” “Wow” or “Yeah.”
HT The Blaze
August 10, 2011 at 9:25 pm
http://www.scripturecatholic.com/zionism.html
Sadly, he is not far off.
August 10, 2011 at 9:28 pm
I guess you have to go here
http://www.scripturecatholic.com/
and then scroll down on the left to find Zionism under ESCHATOLOGY
August 10, 2011 at 9:29 pm
That is not why any Christian I know defends Israel. Not one.
August 10, 2011 at 10:00 pm
As to Chomsky, it's been years since he made any sense. And I'm not sure whether he ever did, outside his own very technical sphere.
August 10, 2011 at 11:00 pm
Chomsky's talking about certain fundamentalist Christians (the type who always speak about the imminent end-times and how they relate to modern politics). He's not wrong; these types exist and there are more of them than anyone cares to believe.
His comments really don't concern authentic Christianity (ie. Catholicism).
He actually frequently makes very laudatory comments about Vatican II. It's one of the few areas I disagree with him on.
August 11, 2011 at 1:00 am
I sometimes wonder how Evangellicals miss the fact that Israel burns Bibles in the street and their war with Palestine hurts Arab Christians more than most other groups.
Christians can support Israel if they choose, but it sure can't be based on religious reasons.
August 11, 2011 at 3:22 am
My feeling is that Evangelicals do not really care about Israel or the Jews. They care deeply about their own bogus eschatologies, and the Jews are just a cog in that rattling, clanking machinery. In that sense, Chomsky is on to something. The Catholic Church appreciates the Jewish people as "our older brothers and sisters" in Christ. This is the real deal.
August 11, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Bring up Israel on a Catholic website and, sadly, people with issues with "THE JOOOS!" begin crawling out of the woodwork.
As for Chomsky, almost everything he says on politics can be categorized under "paranoia", "garbage" and "ludicrous".
Here is a good overview of Chomsky:
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1232
August 11, 2011 at 3:23 pm
The Jews have always been uptight about Christianity since day one. The vast majority of them, irreguardless of what branch of Judaism they belong to, look upon any act of kindness shown to them by Christians as an attempt to convert them.
His charge that some Christians support Israel becase they are anti-semetic does have some basis in history. Many people, Christian or not, supported the idea of Jews moving to Palestine so they could get them out of their countries.
There are many legitimate issues that Christians and others have with the Jews. These issues are usually brushed away with the race card, or the "elder brothers" card. Such an attitude shows a profound ignorance of the New Testament, and the history of Jew-Christian relationships since the Apostolic era. One only has to read such books as "Jewish Influence On Christian Reform Movements" by Rabbi Louis I Newman, "Reckless Rites" by Elliot Horowitz, "The Plot Against The Church" by Maurice Pinay, "Jesus In The Talmud" by Peter Schafer, the Early Church Fathers, and parts of the Talmud to realize that many Jews have been willing to do harm to non-Jews as a part of their cultural conditioning. I would suggest that both sides do some serious reading so we can deal with "the isses" in a truthfull, realistic manner, instead of hurling insults and accusations at each other. Scotju
August 11, 2011 at 4:21 pm
I cannot understand why even one Christian living in America defends Israel. It is a confessional state comprised of individuals who are Jews; i.e. those who reject Jesus Christ.
The Jews living in occupied Palestine had virtually no connection with the O.T. nation of Israel and they forcibly displaced peoples who had been living peacefully in Palestine for a millenia.
America is sowing, fertilising, and cultivating an enormous crop of enemies in the M.E. by our blind support of Israel which, outside of their theft of our technology, money, military secrets, etc, to say noting about their attack on the USS Liberty, ..wait, just a second; was I trying to finish off that paragraph by trying to come-up with something positive about our nosing-around in Satan's Sand Trap?
Nah..can't do it.
As a Christian, I am much more interested in an America-Holy See dual loyalty; as a Christian I am much more interested in an America-Lichtenstein dual loyalty, etc etc
However, I am in favor of the America-Israel dual loyalty if it is correctly understood as America- Catholic Church dual loyalty seeing as how the Catholic Church is the new Israel but the judaised protestants ain't interested in the true Israel.
August 12, 2011 at 7:23 pm
I cannot understand why even one Christian living in America defends Israel. It is a confessional state comprised of individuals who are Jews; i.e. those who reject Jesus Christ.
Because unlike the other confessional states in the Middle East made up of people who reject Christ, this one actually grants basic civil rights to its citizens.
they forcibly displaced peoples who had been living peacefully in Palestine for a millenia.
Peacefully. You use that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.
America is sowing, fertilising, and cultivating an enormous crop of enemies in the M.E. by our blind support of Israel
Yeah, it's our support of Israel that motivates their hatred. Right.
By the way, even if true (which it isn't), I don't get how this argument is even meant to be persuasive. If our support for one particular country so enrages another country that they are willing to slaughter thousands of our citizens, it is we who have the problem?
August 15, 2011 at 2:56 pm
Because unlike the other confessional states in the Middle East made up of people who reject Christ, this one actually grants basic civil rights to its citizens.
Not if they are not Jews.
they forcibly displaced peoples who had been living peacefully in Palestine for a millenia.
Peacefully. You use that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.
Then please point out to all of us the Palestinians aggression against other countries prior to the machinations of establishing a Jewish State in their midst.
America is sowing, fertilising, and cultivating an enormous crop of enemies in the M.E. by our blind support of Israel
Yeah, it's our support of Israel that motivates their hatred. Right.
Of course it is. They tell us that is the case so why would be not believe them? Were they attacking us prior to the imposition of a Jewish State in their ancestral lands? When you have the largest military in the history of the world attacking poor non-industrial peoples, other than terrorism, how are they to respond? More UN resolutions that Israel reflexively gainsays?
By the way, even if true (which it isn't), I don't get how this argument is even meant to be persuasive. If our support for one particular country so enrages another country that they are willing to slaughter thousands of our citizens, it is we who have the problem?
It is called blow-back. We have been bombing the hell out of those poor defenseless folks for decades and what we have done to them is flat out evil , not to say criminal; i.e. war crimes.
August 16, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Not if they are not Jews.
Errr, wrong. Muslims living in the Israel have more basic civil rights than Muslims in, say, Saudi Arabia.
Of course it is.
I honestly don't know how people like you become this ignorant. If you spent less time reading the "Daily Internationalist Conspiracy" newsletter and learned a little bit about Islam, you'd realize that the jihadis despise all non-Muslims. If Israel didn't exist they'd still hate us.
But I'm done arguing with you. All you are capable of doing is repeating, sheep-like, the same crap that I have read countless times before by other Ron Paulbots. What you say has no basis in objective reality, but you get off by being the cranky, "everyone but me is just a deluded neo-con" guy. It's trite, it's boring, and you're simply not worth wasting my time responding to.